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5/8/18 - Special Guest: Curtis B of DC Reggae

Thanks to Curtis Bergesen of DC Reggae for hanging out with us in the studio this week!  We discovered he reports on all the reggae AND makes collages! #artsyguy  :-)

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  1. ***Low Spirit, by Distant Creatures (Indie, Dream Pop)

  2. Something, by Yellow Dubmarine (Reggae, Rock & Roll)

  3. Speak the Fire, by Christos DC [Ft. Zafayah & The Skankin' Monks] (Reggae, R&B)

  4. ***One Thirsty, by Synthador (Techno, Electronic)

  5. Drop Your Guns, by Thievery Corporation (World, Reggae)

***The first time we've played this artist for you on the show, & a new artist profile added to our DC Artist Database!  There's new artists every week!

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DC Reggae

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DC Reggae's Bio:

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Curtis Bergesen aka DC Reggae was born in Washington, DC, and grew up in Bethesda, MD. He is a collage artist, publicist, drummer, vegetarian, and man of many words. While attending the University of Delaware he got involved with radio, and created and hosted the show Mixed Vegetables. He played a wide variety of musical genres throughout his 100+ radio shows, including underground and independent artists. Curtis then started booking and promoting concerts; one of the first artists that he worked with was the reggae band Giant Panda Guerilla Dub Squad (GPGDS). In 2007, Curtis moved to Brooklyn, NY, and founded Herbivore Publicity. He went on to work with Rootfire and Ineffable Music Group, handling publicity and social media for various bands, venues, and festivals, including GPGDS, The Movement, The Green, and John Brown's Body.

In 2009 Curtis created DC Reggae, to spread the word about upcoming reggae concerts in the DMV. DC Reggae shares information about international, national, and local acts, through their social media networks @dcreggae, and mailing list. Curtis' passion for the arts extends beyond music; he creates handmade collages under the alias Collage The World.



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Brian:   On DC music rocks we're shinning a spotlight on the great songs, artists, and incredible people behind the DC regions music scene and Curtis Bergesen, aka DC Reggae, was born in Washington and grew up in Bethesda, Maryland. He's a collage artist, a publicist, drummer, vegetarian, and a man of many words as we're finding out now. While attending the University of Delaware he got involved with radio and created and hosted a show called Mixed Vegetables while he was there and he played a wide variety of musical genres through his 100 plus radio shows including underground and independent artists. So Curtis then started booking and promoting concerts and one of the first artists that he ever worked with was Giant Panda Gorilla Dub Squad which he has now shared with you by name multiple times so clearly we know there's love there. And in 2009 Curtis created DC Reggae which is to spread the word about Reggae concerts coming in the DMV.

    So DC Reggae's whole purpose is they share information about all of the Reggae music whether it's international, national, local through their social media networks and their mailing lists and Curtis' passion for the arts extends beyond music. He also makes handmade collages under the alias Collage The World so he's got visual art and musical art and honestly I've been following you since I ran into you at, I think it was, we were at Gypsy Sally's when Giant Panda Dub Squad was there. Imagine that, I met you at a Giant Panda show.

Curtis B:   Me and [crosstalk 00:01:23].

Brian:   Sensing a theme.

Curtis B:   Yes we met at Giant Panda Gorilla Dub Squad in February we were introduced by the infamous, too tough, Andy [Serdi 00:01:30]. Hi Andy. Great person in the DC music scene.

Brian:   Yeah he's the guy from Fort Knox recordings we had him on the show a couple of times. He's heavily involved in the scene.

Curtis B:   Serious connector, good human.

Brian:   But it's, I've been a fan of yours and the work you're doing ever since so thanks for being here man.

Curtis B:   Thank you so much.

Brian:   How did you get into Reggae?

Curtis B:   Let me just say I totally forgot I sent you this bio and it's incredible how well you seemed to know me Brian. In fact I was telling you some of this varying information before this episode this show. I was trying to tell you about this stuff and I'm like, "Oh the bio that I wrote and sent to them. Whoops." So how did I get-

Brian:   Well we all ready know that stuff so now tell us more stuff man.

Curtis B:   Yes so basically I've worked in the music business for over a decade specifically with mostly nationally touring Reggae bands, none of whom are actually from the DC area. And as time went on I said, "Well I'm from the DC area I may as well start a Twitter @DC Reggae to tweet about shows that are coming up in DMV." And as time went on I then made DC Reggae on Facebook and then an Instagram profile and around December time I thought, "Man it's really time to make a mailing list and start sending out a monthly newsletter with a concert calendar ticket giveaways and other fun things. Information about Reggae music et cetera and so that's basically where we're at. I am taking a little bit more of an active role DC Reggae rather than passively, occasionally posting about upcoming shows.

     I'm trying to take it a little bit more seriously and do a more sort of across the board comprehensive job of promoting and, again, anyone who's out there give me a shout on socials or whatever. If you have a show coming up or you're excited about a show coming up that has anything to do with Reggae music in Washington D.C. in the surrounding areas please get in touch 'cause I'd love to spread the word about your show. And as we all know from DC Music Rocks it's all about connecting with people and spreading the word, I think more importantly than ever, verbal communication, text messages to your friends about cool shows or cool things going on it's not hard to stand out and make a little bit of a difference with some extra promotion outside of just sending an invite to a Facebook event or hoping that someone likes this Instagram page your friend runs that you mentioned to them one time.

Brian:   I must say you got that speil down. Clearly you've been doing this for a little while. You got, you're all ready arming them with don't, you know, send a text, not a Facebook invite, like boy you clearly. I love it man. You're definitely involved with this thing but it's also everything that you're saying is true which is that the little bit of personal touch and clearly you put a lot of personal touch into what you do too with creating this DC Reggae thing. So I love that man. What part of the city is home for you?

Curtis B:   So I grew up in Bethesda. I was born at Columbia Hospital for Women thanks to my mom for having me and giving birth to me. She's a special lady and I also learned, in preparing for this interview that Duke Ellington and Al Gore were also born at this hospital which is now been turned to condominiums, but anyway, yes I-

Brian:   That was the most random story and I love it. Like we went from you being born, thanks mom, Al Gore, Duke Ellington, condos. I don't know if we could've done it any better man.

Curtis B:   I'd like to thank my ... I'd like to thank my sponsor Wikipedia on that last information blast.

Brian:   Oh God I love it. Thank you Wikipedia. All right so ...

Curtis B:   I just moved in to a new apartment in, I think the neighborhoods called Cathedral Commons, but I don't know if that's-

Brian:   Up near the National Cathedral?

Curtis B:   It's near the National Cathedral-

Brian:   Nice.

Curtis B:   There's a lot a trees and forests nearby which is super crucial when you look out of a apartment window all day if you do that sort of thing. My girlfriend Crystal and I just moved in the past couple of days. It's been stressful as anybody who's ever moved [crosstalk 00:05:05]-

Brian:   Oh wow one of those. Congratulations on the new place man.

Curtis B:   Thank you so much.

Brian:   That's exciting.

Curtis B:   And also Crystal was a good sounding board for me yesterday prepping for this interview which I've been extremely nervous about and thanks to whoever's listening out there and sticking with me. I appreciate you listening because compared to Brian-

Brian:   Curtis you're doing great man.

Curtis B:   Compared to Brian-

Brian:   Just stop it. Just stop it you're doing great man. Don't do it. So what's the, tell us about your earliest memory with music man?

Curtis B:   So my earliest memory with music it's hard to say definitively but I remember my dad quizzing me about what song was on the radio. He'd say, "Okay who is this?" And I would say, "I have no idea." It was so hard to tell it was just like who knows. Led Zeppelin, The Police, I mean Doobie Brothers it could have been anyone and I got frustrated with him for it, but at some point this is the magic of communication and I don't know, potentially good parenting or music sharing. At some point I started remembering who it was and I could hear the song and I would say, "Oh this is so and so." Now I don't know how old I was or how long this took me, side note, again another girlfriend shout out, I now do this to my girlfriend Crystal. I say, "Oh what song is this?" And she's-

Brian:   Oh God. It's your parents taught you and now you're doing it there too. That's funny.

Curtis B:   She says, "I have no idea. I'm only interested in what Beyonce is doing with ..." Yeah. Her next world tour which I am also interested in. Beyonce is absolutely incredible.

Brian:   That's like the bae squad. She's one of the baes. Yeah.

Curtis B:   Yeah so early music experience I credit to my dad quizzing me on what song we were listening to and-

Brian:   And was that in the car or was that at home? Where was that normally?

Curtis B:   I would say probably the car. It could have been at home, again, I'm in my late 90's now so it's hard to say exactly what decade it was but-

Brian:   We did, we did see you if you look at the pictures on social media. We got the ... There's definitely long hair version of Curtis and a short hair version of Curtis and various lengths of beard Curtis. So it's been a lot of evolutions over a year. 90 plus years you're just talking about now [inaudible 00:07:00] that's, I like it.

Curtis B:   My hair farming came to an end after three plus years in this past fall and I've had a lot of work done. So all though I'm in my 90's I do appear to be more like my mid 30's.

Brian:   Oh incredible. Well whatever that plastic surgeon is we shouldn't plug 'em here.

Curtis B:   Yes.

Brian:   What's, now what about you on the personal side? Outside of this music thing what else do you do? Hobbies? What do you do?

Curtis B:   So one of my main things that I'm doing these days is handmade collage, or analog collage as you referred to in the scene.

Brian:   And if they don't know what that means?

Curtis B:   Yeah so cutting and pasting, sometimes ripping. Usually with scissors or an X-Acto blade and gluing or sometimes taping different pieces of magazine or brochure or pages out of a book or pretty much any random printed object. Taking pieces from different places and gluing them together into a new idea or concept or piece of art. And for visually getting to what I'm talking about you can check out my Instagram at Collage The World. It's basically the word college but with an A. Collage The World. My most recent piece I just finished a couple days ago is actually a collage featuring David Hinds who is the front man of the incredible Reggae band Steel Pulse. So-

Brian:   Nice.

Curtis B:   It's actually the first Reggae oriented collage I've done, but I'm spending quite a bit of time making him a collage, aka art, and that's something I've really been diving in hard on the past year or so and have gone down some serious rabbit holes on Instagram discovering and connecting with collage artists from all over the world. It's an amazing piece, style of art in that anyone can do it, even someone like Brian, who I don't know if he's artistic with paints or drawing or anything. He could take two pieces of paper, rip them or cut them and glue them into a new composition and I would by them for a lot.

Brian:   Oh but a [inaudible 00:08:48] somehow that, you know I love this, I love this conversation too because that's something that like the time and the patience that it must take to collage is just astronomical to find the right picture and then collage it together and that's ... And like I love creating. With the radio show and I'm the drummer in a rock band and so everybody has their art thing that they love and I love talking about this because that's like I personally wouldn't collage, but I've seen some collages that look absolutely incredible so I love that this is a cool little side thing you got going there.

Curtis B:   Well exciting side note, those of you who are familiar with Reggae music Chronixx, arguably, the biggest Reggae artist in the world right now who's in his 20's who's from Jamaica very talented. He also has an amazing band. Chronixx's most recent album Chronology which I think won, was Rolling Stone magazine in the top 50 albums of last year which Rolling Stone doesn't give too many nods to Reggae music so that's saying something. Chronixx's last album, the album cover and also the inner album artwork, if you have the vinyl or the CD, were done by a collage artist Dewey Saunders.

Brian:   Well look at that. Cool man.

Curtis B:   So album artwork which is always a very tricky thing as any band members or artist can attest to collage is any amazing way to go.

Brian:   That's cool. I do, now I want to ask you one piece, if my favorite question. If you could offer one piece of advice what would it be?

Curtis B:   Well you're going to hate this 'cause I know we're crunched on time, but I have a few things. First of all, go outside. Go outside five or ten minutes every afternoon, if you work at home this can be especially critical but also if you're at an office job at a cubicle take five to ten minutes, go outside in the afternoon, get some fresh air, even if it's nasty outside and if you're boss says, "Hey what's up?" You can be like, "Hey well what about Don who's smoking cigarettes all day long going outside? I don't need a cigarette to go take five minutes to feel a little bit better about myself and to get a breath of air and a recharge. My next advice and this is a critical one for music-

Brian:   Curtis you're such an overachiever. I asked for one man. You're such an overachiever.

Curtis B:   I know I'm sorry Brian but I'm going to tear through this. I work hard-

Brian:   How many do you have? Prepare me.

Curtis B:   I have three.

Brian:   Okay.

Curtis B:   So lesson number two if you're going to get a band tattoo don't just like let the tattoo artist pull an image off of the band's Myspace or something. Hit up the band and say, "Hey I want to get your logo or your recent album cover art tattooed. Can you send me the file?" You never know their manager-

Brian:   Is this a common thing?

Curtis B:   Band tattoos are very common and many bands I've worked with over the years occasionally will see a fan photo of, "Oh I got the Giant Panda logo." So hit up the band, get the original artwork before you get a tattoo that's going to change your life or ruin your life.

Brian:   Okay.

Curtis B:   And final piece of advice is, and this I, is something I'm trying to do more often. Acknowledge people and say thank you for things to people if it's a co-worker or whoever it is, even a routine thing, we all appreciate being acknowledged for hard work we do even if it's basic stuff or part of your job. You never know who can use a pick me up so saying thank you and appreciating people more is a good positive thing to do and we all like being appreciated.

Brian:   I love it. So be appreciative, go outside, and tattoos. That was an amazing collection of advice man. All right. So let's just back into some music. Oh and by the way if they want to find out more about you it's @ DC Reggae. Everything's @ DC Reggae.

Curtis B:   @ DC Reggae on all socials.

Brian:   Awesome.

October 18, 2016 - Special Guest: Mark Lyons of Acre 121

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  1. Never Gonna Change - Sub-Radio (Indie/Indie Rock)
  2. I Don't Want To Love You - Scott Thorn (Rock/Americana)
  3. World Premier - Get Back Up - Rachel Levitin (Pop/Pop Rock)
  4. New Release - Free - Exnations (Pop/Alternative Pop)
  5. Someday - The Fishermen Band (Pop/Reggae)
  6. Don't Make Me Feel - The DCeivers (Rock/Indie)
  7. The End - Yellow Dubmarine (Reggae/Rock & Roll)
  8. Intro/Outro music by Fellowcraft (Hard Rock/Blues)

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Mark Lyons DC Music Rocks

Originally from DC, the early years were spent studying Technical Theater at the Duke Ellington School for the Arts which is where I first gained my appreciation for live music and stage performance. Fast forward a few years and you could find me spinning house and techno records (yes... vinyl!!) with my friends in my basement during my free time; earning the nickname "Crateworm" for my ability to dig through a stack of vinyl and come up with the best deep cuts. After a couple of years as an IT Professional, I ditched the business world and moved to El Salvador where I worked for three years teaching English before finally coming back to the DC area. Upon my return, I took up bartending at the old Austin Grill in Rockville where I also got my first experience booking talent. Many years (and several bars) later, I wound up at Acre 121 in Columbia Heights as their night manager. When the opportunity arose to take over the live music program, I jumped at the chance to put my skills to use. Aside from booking acts, I also serve as our in-house audio engineer and graphics designer which keeps me pretty occupied. Still, I find time to enjoy Miller Lites and Jameson with my friends, long walks with my pit bull Jamo, and riding my bike.


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Brian:  It's that time that I get to introduce to you my special guest. Today, I've got Mark Lyons, who is the talent buyer for Acre 121. Originally from Washington D. C.., his early years were spent studying technical theater at Duke Ellington School for the Arts, which is where he first gained appreciation for live music and stage performance. Fast forward a few years and you could find him spinning house and techno records ... Yes, I just said records. He was spinning records with his friends in his basement during his free time, and he earned the nickname "Crate Worm" for his ability to dig through a stack of vinyl and come up with the best deep cuts. 

After a couple of years as an IT professional, he gave up IT, thank goodness. I did that too, Mark, by the way. He gave up IT, and he ran away. He ditched the business world completely and moved to El Salvador, where he worked for three years teaching English before finally coming back to the Washington D. C.. area. When he came back, he took up bartending at the old Austin Grill in Rockville, if any of you guys remember that one, where he also got his first experience booking talent. Many years and several bars later, he wound up at Acre 121 in Columbia Heights as their night manager. When the opportunity arose to take over the live music program at Acre 121, he jumped at the chance to put these skills to use.

Aside from booking acts, he wears a lot of hats. He also serves as their in-house audio engineer, their graphics designer, and, well, he's overall just an amazing dude. He keeps them pretty occupied. In his free time, you can actually find Mark enjoying Miller Lights and Jameson with his friends, on long walks with his pit bull, Jaymo? Jamo?

Mark:  Jamo.

Brian:  Jamo, and also riding his bike. Guys, the first time I met Mark I'll never forget because he's just such a laid-back, really cool dude, and at the same time, he's one of those people where, when you meet him, he's just got one of those hearts that you just, you believe that he is a good dude within ... It must have been less than two minutes, I was just convinced that he was an amazing guy. It is with great pleasure that I introduce Mark Lyons. Say hi to everybody, Mark.

Mark:  Wow, thank you, Brian. Hello, everybody. I'm over here blushing now.

Brian:  Mark, it's such a treat to have you here, such a treat. One of the mission of this show is also to shine a spotlight on the incredible folks and the talent behind D. C.. music. The things you do at Acre are just incredible stuff. I want to find out some more about you. Tell us about Mark professionally. Tell us about Acre 121 and Mark. Tell us about that.

Mark:  All right. Acre 121, that's an easy place to start. We're a small little venue in Columbia Heights, right on the corner of 14th Street and Irving in Northwest D. C..

Brian:  Got it.

Mark:  Right over by the Metro stop. We do great food, barbecue. I believe someone here has a penchant for our barbecue wings.

Brian:  Oh my God, the wings, guys, the wings are real. I am addicted to their barbecue wings. I come in at least every two, three weeks just to get a fix on the wings. Yes, wings.

Mark:  Then when the lights come down, the music comes up. We do live music Friday, Saturday nights. We've got all kinds of events during the week. We do trivia. We do open mic nights, karaoke, basically anything to fill your bill for live music and entertainment.

Brian:  Wow, that's awesome. Now, if folks want to find out about what's going on in Acre 121 in terms of what's happening and the events and who's playing, where do they go to get that?

Mark:  You can always, you can like us on Facebook. We do have an active Facebook page. We also have our website, You can also go to /calendar. That will give you all the calendar of events.

Brian:  Oh, you got the calendar. Now I know there are some musicians that listen too. If they're interested in potentially being on stage at Acre 121, how does that work?

Mark:  It's very easy. You can just send us an email to bookings, that's with an S, plural...

Mark: That ends up in my inbox. We definitely just ask that artists, if you have electronic press kit or some videos that we can check out, we're always looking to bring in Washington D. C.. music.

Brian:  Fantastic. It's such a treat. Just in your intro, I got to talk about you got a pit bull named Jamo and riding a bike. What's Mark outside of the talent buyer at Acre 121?

Mark:  Outside of work, I'm actually pretty mellow and quiet. I'm not out late at night. I mean I work most weekends so ...

Brian:  I was going to say, "Wait a minute, you're out late at night almost every night, so hold on just a second." Okay.

Mark:  Wild and crazy Mondays and Wednesdays, that's how I do it. That's how I do it. I just enjoy living life and meeting people and just having a good time, having a good time.

Brian:  That's awesome. What's one thing you like about the D. C.. music scene, specifically here in D. C..?

Mark:  There's so much of it. For a city that has a metro that won't stay open past midnight, we still have a very vibrant live music community, everything from country and bluegrass to rock and roll to pop music covers, you name it, you name it, it's out there. They're all very talented musicians.

Brian:  I bet, definitely. I've been to Acre 121 randomly getting wings on a Friday or a Saturday night and happen to sit down and the music came on, and it was like just .. God, one night, there was an incredible cover band. There was another that was a guitarist, phenomenal stuff that's come across that stage, that's for sure. Now, tell us the story about the best show or a success moment you've had, tell us, in Acre.

Mark:  See, I mean that's tough because in my opinion, they're all great shows. There is just something to be said about having, finding a band that nobody's ever heard of before and you bring 'em in and they bring their crowd, we bring our crowd, and next thing you know, you've got 100 people just dancing and having a good time. We've been blessed to have a few of those nights, and we look forward to each and every one of them.

Brian:  Yeah. Well, we, as fans, do as well, that's for sure. It's going to be a good night when you go to Acre 121. I've had this experience as a fan and also as a performer. It's truly a good time. Now tell us the story about a time you tried and failed, something you tried and it didn't go over. Share one of those with us.

Mark:  Oh, I mean there are lots of failures in my life, but you learn from each one. Probably one of my earliest failures was just out of high school, I moved out to the West Coast, I lived in Oregon for a little while, and I just-

Brian:  Wow, way out there, okay.

Mark:  Yeah.

Brian:  Ran away as far as you could.

Mark:  If you noticed, there's a theme, there's a trend in my behavior patterns.

Brian:  Oh, okay.

Mark:  I'm definitely trying to put some roots down now.

Mark:  I was out on the West Coast, and this was still when I was into the house and techno and dance music. Actually, I started throwing parties out there. I had one really great successful party and thought I could duplicate it. I learned that, one of the biggest lessons is, is that it's also in the preparation. If you don't take the time to actually set these parties, these events up right, promote them, give them time, get the word out, you go from having 1,000 people at your first party to about 150 at the second one.

Brian:  Oh my goodness.

Mark:  Yeah.

Brian:  Okay. The people involved in that second party were probably not as excited about 150 versus 1,000.

Mark:  No, no, not at all.

Brian:  Oh man. Mark, that must have been brutal.

Mark:  But you learn. You learn from your mistakes.

Brian:  Wow. What's one thing in your music collection that might surprise us? 

Mark:  I like country music.

Brian:  Yeah?

Mark:  I do like country music. This was a recent development through the last 10 years or so because I was always-

Brian:  Really? Later in life country guy?

Mark:  I was always one of those people who was, like, "Oh no, country, that's just 'my wife left me and my dog died' kind of music."

Mark:  But I was helping a friend who would buy houses and then he would flip them. This was before the old, the market crash, so everybody was in on that. I would help him out, and so we were fixing up these houses, and it was just the two of us, and he would bring the radio. I don't know if anybody out there has ever worked in a contractor construction job, but whoever brings the radio gets to pick the music.

Brian:  Oh, they get control of the radio.

Mark:  They get to pick the music, yes.

Brian:  It's a power role.

Mark:  It is, it is. It's something that a lot of people don't know.

Brian:  Okay, it's a power play. Whoa.

Mark:  And he loved country music. For about three months, for eight hours a day, five days a week, I listened to country music, and I started to love it.

Brian:  Country music.

Mark:  Yes, so that's something that you would be shocked. You would be shocked.

Brian:  I love that. All right, well, at Acre 121, do you have any rules that you live by while you're there? Are there any that you have them and then you always break them anyway?

Mark:  No, I would say we don't like to set rules, aside from the obvious rules as far as don't be a, can I say "jerk" 

Brian:  A jerk, okay. [crosstalk 00:10:48]

Mark:  Don't be a jerk, we'll leave it at that. We don't like to pigeonhole ourselves into one genre or into one style, so we don't like to set rules. Even if we did, I think rules are definitely made to be broken.

Brian:  Amen to that because sometimes, sometimes they're good. It's always interesting to hear the rules that people have and then the rules that people break. Between the diets and there are so many things that people have rules and then they break 'em, so it's also nice to hear that you don't have any rules for Acre as a performance thing. What about personally? You got any rules personally that you have and then you end up-

Mark:  Absolutely not, absolutely not. There are no rules in my life.

Brian:  And nothing that you'd admit on the radio, got it, okay, very good. Now, this is one thing that I love to ask, and it's do you have one piece of advice that you would offer with your experience in your life that's brought you to here?

Mark:  It's an obvious one, but just follow your heart. I've been in the service restaurant industry for well over 15 years. I've been behind the bar managing for almost seven. At Acre 121, I found that I was able to come back to what I love, which is the live music and the audio engineering and just the working with bands. There have obviously been times when the paychecks in the service industry aren't the greatest and I've thought about going back into the corporate world, but it's just, it's not as much fun.

Brian:  I was going to ask is that how you ended up in ... How did you end up in the restaurant? Did you stumble across it? Did you just want to make some money and then ... How did you end up in the restaurant industry?

Mark:  It's pretty well known the restaurant industry is pretty forgiving when it comes to past sins and transgressions.

Brian:  I see, okay.

Mark:  There was a long period of time when I was out of work and just wasn't ... There are a few gaps in my resume, let's just put it that way. 

Mark:  When I did come back to the D. C.. area, the restaurant industry has been very nice to me and treated me very well, so ....

Brian:  Fantastic. I love how you pay it forward, Acre 121 paying it forward to you and you pay it forward to us each time with all these incredible acts that you bring in. I just love what you're doing over there, love what you're doing.

Now, where do we go, if we want to find out more about you and Acre 121, where do we go?

Mark:  Like I said, you can find us on Facebook. I think you can find me on Facebook too. I don't know if my profile is public or not. I think you can. I think you can.

Brian:  Awesome.

Mark:  Or at

Brian:  Easy enough.

Mark:  Yeah, you can check us out.

Brian:  Mark, thank you so much for sharing a little bit about you. It's a treat because I have known you for a little while, but I've actually never gotten to hear some of these stories about how you came to D. C.. I had no idea, so thanks for sharing about you too.

Mark:  Absolutely.

Brian:  It was a treat having you here.