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3/13/18 - Special Guest: The Fringe Benefits

Thanks to Bruce and Dave with The Fringe Benefits for hanging out with us in the studio this week!

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  1. Until They Find Us, by The Grey A (Indie, Rock)

  2. Step Out, by The Fringe Benefits (Pop, Motown)

  3. Hurricane, by Hayley Fahey (Rock, Indie Rock)

  4. Diamonds Are Optional, by Vintage#18 (Blues, Soul)

  5. Someone Special, by Stephen Ascone (Pop)

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The Fringe Benefits

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The Fringe Benefit's Bio:

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The Fringe Benefits began forming at the end of 2013 with talented and experienced musicians from northern Virginia. The 5 piece band based in Gainesville Virginia features drums, guitar, bass, guitar synth and 5 vocalists. Julianna Smith, lead vocalist has a big, powerful and soulful voice that makes the band’s recordings instantly recognizable.

The band performs regularly in Northern Virginia. Playing songs that draw ladies to the dance floor, the band creatively “mashes-up” covers of songs from 80’s to today. The band also plays a original songs including "You're On My Time Now" that went to #1 on the Radio Indie Alliance chart in 2017 and just released Oct 2017, “Step Out” which won an honorable mention in the pop category at the recent Songwriters Association of Washington. On March 3rd at our 4 year anniversary show, we introduced a new original “Mama Knows Blessed”.

Twitter- @fringebenefitsb

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Brian:     On DC Music Rocks, we're shining a spotlight on the great songs, artists and incredible people behind the DC region's local music scene. The Fringe Benefit's is a 5 piece band based in Gainesville, Virginia featuring drums, guitar, bass, guitar synth and vocalists. Five vocalists. I mean, everybody sings. We've got Juliana Smith, who's lead vocalist, has big, powerful and soulful voice that makes the bands recordings instantly recognizable. They were born in 2013. The band performs regularly around northern Virginia and they play originally music and creatively mash up covers of songs of the 80's to today. So, I first came across them when I was doing the show a while back and I've been A Friend's Benefit's fan. The album Step Out came out and I've just been following them and I love the stuff that you're doing. So, basically, for me, being the fan boy, it's an honor to have you here man. Bruce, thanks and Dave, thanks for coming down guys. Thanks for being here.

Bruce:     It's an honor to be here Brian and I've gotta tell you, you know, the things that you're doing for the local music scene. As I mentioned earlier, it's kind of like you're the Paul Shaffer of golden Virginia music. You know everybody now.

Brian:     Wait, they don't know who Paul Shaffer is, who's Paul Shaffer?

Bruce:     He's the guy that knows everybody in the music business and actually performed with everybody from James Brown to Aretha Franklin to on and on.

Brian:     God. Okay. I take that as a compliment then. Holy smokes. I like to say I know of them. I don't know all of them yet but I'm trying. Thanks Bruce. I appreciate that man. So, now, what is it that makes the Fringe Benefit's special? That's what I want to know off the bat.

Bruce:     I don't think this was on the list.

Brian:     There's a lot of bands out there. So, what is it that makes the Fringe Benefit's show or the Fringe Benefit's a little different from the others?

Bruce:     Yeah. So, I would say it's really stage presence. The covers consist of the core of the shore. We do the original songs as self promotion and give us something unique but really I would say, truly, honest, it's stage presence. We used to have different ones that were singing lead vocal and when you're singing to the people in the audience, they're looking at you and you make eye contact. So, a year ago John said you know, I'm singing lead vocal in the song. Nobody's looking at me. Everybody's looking at Juliana and I said well dude, I'm not gonna tell her to cut her stage presence. You gotta increase your stage presence.

Brian:     You gotta step it up buddy.

Bruce:     Yeah. Step it up and we have so, it's happening but yeah, we go from song to song well. We play popular songs that people know and enjoy and we mix in a couple originals but I think it's the stage presence. We do have a little bit different instrumentation. I'm sure you have some listeners out there that are musicians. I'm playing guitar synth. So, while you see me play guitar, you hear piano, organ, saxophone, different instruments and I do all that live. There's no track. Every note is played.

Brian:     That's amazing and Dave you're here with us too. Now, talk about, what do you think is special? You're working with the band, you're doing some of the booking too. So, talk about what you do and then talk about what you think makes Fringe Benefit's a little different? What are you booking for?

Dave:     Sure. Well, I like to work with them because they're just all about having fun and the music industry can be crazy and it can be hard to get gigs and how to get motivated to go out and knock on doors, make phone calls, and send emails. Working for these guys has been a privilege because I see just how much fun they have playing and how much fun their fans have coming out and dancing and grooving to their music all night long. I think that goes a really long way to have a group of people that are good friends, that enjoy each other's company and they just have a lot of fun.

Bruce:     You really get three aspects of playing in music. You get the gigs, the music and then the relationships and we take advantage and have fun with all that but as you talk about having fun, this is a big contrast to one of your artists that you played earlier. They're all political. We have nothing political in what we're doing unless it's in a popular cover tune. Then it's not us saying it.

Brian:     True. That's one of the great things I love about the DC scenes too is that you really get everything. [crosstalk 00:04:43] People sing about what's close to their heart and if you're writing, you're writing a song about step out - which is about your friends that are coming out and one of your other songs might be about something else that happened to you. For some people, this is how they air their political frustrations and for others it's where you get your inspiration from and it changes every time.

Bruce:     Beautiful.

Brian:     So, it's a cool thing. Now, talk about where does the name come from? Fringe Benefits. What's the story there?

Bruce:     So, my version of the story is we were coming together long about the time Obama Care was coming in and it was my belief that no one could afford health insurance for their employees. So, maybe they could provide some fringe benefits. Maybe one of those could be having the Fringe Benefits band at the company party.

Brian:     So, I liked to point out how you just talked about how you weren't political and yet that's the story of your name Bruce.

Bruce:     Well, I didn't ask the question.

Brian:     Man, that's funny.

Bruce:     There's nothing wrong with having Fringe Benefits, right?

Brian:     That's darn right. I enjoy Fringe Benefits. Fringe Benefit's are nice.

Bruce:     Yeah, I get dinged for that one. Okay.

Brian:     I just had to call you out there for a second because that's really funny. All right. So, your connection to the DC scene, how long have you guys both been in the DC area and what part of the area?

Bruce:     So, I've been here and gone and come back. So, I went to high school - Jeb Stuart, [Oakton 00:06:06]. We're on Wilson Boulevard now. So, down at Seven Quarters, the Eaton Center was [Lafiat 00:06:13] Radio and I worked there. A lot of people don't realize this but the CB boom, nationwide, started in that store and I was a witness to it. So, it was pretty cool but now I've been living in Manassas for 20 years.

Brian:     Got it and what about you Dave?

Dave:     I grew up in Gray Falls and went to Langley High School. My first concert I remember was at the Patriot's Center and it was with the Deaf Tones, Incubus and Tape Root and I just remember having the time of my life and I knew from then on, music was a passion of mine.

Brian:     Yep. [inaudible 00:06:52] I love it. Bruce, you brought up memory with music, Bruce, what's your earliest memory with music?

Bruce:     So, I think it's a pretty cool story. So, one of the kids in the neighborhood got a silk shier, several tone, acoustic guitar and one of the other kids came up and said hey, yo, Ed's got a guitar! We gotta go check it out!  So, we went over to Ed's house and we were pulling the guitar out of each other's hands playing The Lick From Dirty Water. It was a hit song.

Brian:     Okay.

Bruce:     By the Stand Bells and so, that was my earliest memory. Well, about five years ago, I had a beer with the bass player from the Stand Bells.

Brian:     Really? Oh my god.

Bruce:     Pretty cool.

Brian:     That's amazing. Wow. Oh, man. That must have been wild. Oh goodness and while we're on the topic of moments in history here, talk about the funniest moment for the band. What comes to mind?

Bruce:     Two years, maybe three years ago, we dressed up for Halloween. We wanted to do dead rock stars. I did Elvis and many of you may know that Elvis died on the toilet and so, at the end of my choreographed, heart break hotel, there's a turd on the stage. Juliana said I'm not going up there.

Brian:     Oh, that's awful. Oh, man. What did you do?

Bruce:     So, we had a good laugh. Well, actually one of our friends picked it up and pretended to eat it. So, that was [crosstalk 00:08:30].

Brian:     But this was supposed to be funny.

Bruce:     You know who you are.

Brian:     Oh my god. That's unbelievable. All right. Wow. So, when we're not talking about the music stuff then. So, on the personal side, talk about your hobbies and interests. What do you guys do outside of the music? Bruce you first.

Bruce:     Okay. The music is like a therapy for me and kind of powers me for everything else I do. My day job is internet advertising but I also have a company where I do software for printing companies and then community service stuff. I served on the board of the Prince William Chamber of Commerce.

Brian:     Oh.

Bruce:     And the Center for the Arts and the Candy Factory in Manassas. I'm a member of the Manassas Rotary Club and as a band, the Fringe Benefit's have cooked for the homeless a couple times at the serve shelter in Manassas.  So, I'm gonna sign us up and do that again. So, we have a lot of fun just doing stuff for other people.

Brian:     Man, community service stuff. I like that Bruce. Dave, what about you?

Dave:     I'm actually big on the gardening.

Brian:     Really?

Dave:     Yeah.

Brian:     Fantastic.

Dave:     I'm on 5 acres and just planting fruit trees and vegetables and we got chickens. Just big into that and connecting with nature and going hiking and traveling. I just got back from Costa Rica.

Brian:     Costa Rica.

Dave:     I was there for two weeks-

Brian:     Nice.

Dave:     It's an amazing place. I highly suggest it.

Brian:     That's cool. All right. Lots of stuff going on outside and now, I guess to tag onto that then, let's say it's the weekend and you've got nothing on the schedule, you actually have open time. What would you do? If it's Saturday, Sunday and you don't have anything on the schedule, what would you do?

Bruce:     Me? I'm working.

Brian:     What does that mean? For one of the companies or for-

Bruce:     Yeah. Doing ads for clients or either I'm goofing off. Actually, last weekend what I did was working on new technology for the guitar synth. So, that's a fun thing.

Brian:     That's right. You get your guitar synth. That's your thing. What about you Dave? What would you do if you had a weekend off?

Dave:     I will literally be in my garden at like midnight pulling out weeds and planting stuff. I'll have my head lamp on and you know-

Brian:     Oh my god. Those amazing head lamps? You have to see a picture. I took a selfie with them so you can see it and I'm just envisioning him with a headlamp on at midnight. That's really funny. I love that. Gardening.

Dave:     Gardening.

Brian:     Gardening's a thing. I love it.

Dave:     Very therapeutic.

Brian:     Okay, cool. Well, and this questions to both of you guys. This is one of my favorite questions to ask in these interviews is if you could offer one piece of advice, what would it be? And I want to hear from both of you actually. So, Dave, why don't you go first?

Dave:     So, piece of advice for bands, correct?

Brian:     It's up to you. You can offer whatever piece of advice to whoever you want.

Dave:     Okay. Well, I mean the first piece of advice would be to have fun like we talked about with the Fringe Benefits. That's so important. If you're going to be in a band, you're going to be committed to being with these set of people and practicing and going to shows and be committed to this. Have fun and pick people that you're going to get along with and then practice. Really prepare yourself for the gigs, get your songs down, your set list and know what direction you want to go and have a clear vision. Have a plan.

Brian:     Yeah.

Dave:     And then execute it. Go out, get gigs, get a booking agent - someone that's going to represent you.

Brian:     What's the best way to get a booking agent? You just reach out?

Dave:     Yeah, you can give me a call.

Brian:     There you go. Go ahead and say your name is-

Dave:     My name is Dave. Dave [Maskatello 00:12:14]-

Brian:     And how do they find you?

Dave:     Planetary music is my company. You can go on I just bought a new domain. It's going to be, which I'm now building but Facebook's great. Anyway, Planetary Music but there's plenty of agents and you can find some great managers in the area and a manager, if you're an original band, is really important because they'll help you manage your day to day stuff and get the right recording study and get into interviews like this.

Brian:     There you go, yeah.

Dave:     A band called Foot Work that needs to get out here.

Brian:     Oh, there it is. Please do welcome Foot Work, whenever they want to come on, I would love to have them because Foot Work's a great hip hop. I love the hip hop scene in DC and man, Foot Work is one of the early ones I found and I love them so that would be cool.

Dave:     They're about to go on tour in April but anyway, back to the advice. Yeah, promote your shows.

Brian:     Yep.

Dave:     Definitely promote your shows.

Brian:     It's huge.

Dave:     Venues, yes, they're going to do their part and band's gotta do their part.

Brian:     And Bruce, what about you man? One piece of advice.

Bruce:     So, on the fun side, it's never go to a radio interview unprepared.

Brian:     Public service announcement. Thank you Bruce. I appreciate that and the man is prepared. I give him credit. He's got notes in front of him right now. This man is ready. So, I love it. I truly appreciate that man. I appreciate that. That's good. All right. One more time. For those folks who want to find and follow more about the Fringe Benefits and the things you're doing and where you're playing and all that stuff, where do they go?


5/30/17 - Special Guest: Billy Winn

Thanks Billy Winn for joining us on this week's episode!  #Winn #BillyWinn #allidoiswinnwinnwinn

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  1. I've Never Met a Stranger by The Bumper Jacksons (Country/Americana)
  2. Crossfire by Billy Winn (Pop/EDM)
  3. Real One by Jus Paul & Kid Cannibal (Funk/R&B)
  4. Never Been by Mista Fingaz (R&B)
  5. You're On My Time Now by The Fringe Benefits (Pop/Hard Rock)
  6. Wanna Be With You by Jus Paul & Kid Cannibal (Funk/R&B)


Fort Knox Five - Give it a minute (2 song EP)
Jen Miller - Fire (single)
Carolyn Malachi - Summertime (single)
Black Alley - Complicated (single)
The Bumper Jacksons - I've Never Met a Stranger (full album)
Monday Mistress - Rocket (video) --


These are just the few we mentioned on the show, there's some every night, visit our Local Music Calendar to browse them all! 

Fri June 2
Aaron Tinjum & The Tangents @ Jammin Java in Vienna, VA
Vim & Vigor @ The Midlands in DC

Sat-Sun June 3-4
Andrew Tufano, Sub-Radio, His Dream of Lions @ Summerfest in DC
Throwing Plates, Jason Masi, Nelly’s Echo, The VA Southpaws @ Herndon Festival in Herndon, VA

Sun June 4
Mark G. Meadows @ The Hamilton in DC

Thurs June 8
My French Roommate @ DC9 in DC
SwampCandy @ The Hamilton in DC

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Billy Winn is a Billboard-charting singer, songwriter, recording artist, and performer who has captivated audiences with his energetic dance shows and powerhouse talent. Since 2013, Billy has released a number of acclaimed singles, including the song “Future X Boyfriend”—which reached the top 20 on the Billboard Dance chart—and has shared the stage with the likes of Emeli Sande’, Cher Lloyd, Blake Lewis, and Icona Pop. His music ranges from high energy dance records, to slick and sexy urban pop and emotionally charged EDM. After releasing the critically acclaimed single “Crossfire” in 2016, Billy has returned with a new sound and all new style—ready to expand his reach even further. He describes himself as “a pop artist making electro/pop music with a sexy urban edge,” noting artists such as Prince, Aaliyah, and Michael and Janet Jackson as some of his biggest influences.


Snapchat: IamBillyWin


Brian:     On DC Music Rocks, we're shining a spotlight on the great songs and incredible people behind the DC region's music scene. So, now, let's get to know this incredible guy right here. My guest today, Billy Winn, is a Billboard-charting singer, song writer, recording artist, and performer, which captivates on stage and brings energetic dance shows to the stage. Since 2013, Billy has released a number of acclaim singles including the song Future X Boyfriend, which reached the top 20 on the Billboard Dance Chart. His music ranges from high-energy dance records to slick and sexy urban pop and emotionally-charged EDM. He describes himself as a pop artist making electro-pop music with a sexy ... And if you've seen the photos, it's a very sexy urban edge to this guy.

     So, I came across Billy ... Actually, it was last year. We both played the Taste of DC, I believe. That's where I saw your name in there and I was going through checking out all the artists. We were both on stage and different stages or whatever and I saw you on there and it was like, "Wow. This Billy Winn guy is awesome." So, I reached out to him and he's got me back to me, and now it is such a treat to actually have you here to do this.

Billy Winn:     Thank you so much for having me, and it's my pleasure.

Brian:     Thanks for being here, dude.

Billy Winn:     Trust me.

Brian:     This is awesome. So, anyway, let's get to know you here. So, now, you talked a little bit earlier, but share it again. You got started in school. How did music come into your life?

Billy Winn:     It kind of happened sort of by accident. I was a theater kid. I started performing when I was around six years old. At the time I was more interested in just being a performer, acting and dancing, and singing kind of was a prerequisite for that. It wasn't until I was probably 10 where I started to take music seriously and I wanted to be a recording artist. It was from my love of music videos.

Brian:     Music videos?

Billy Winn:     Yeah.

Brian:     So, we're talking, like MTV music videos?

Billy Winn:     MTV videos, like TRL and stuff like that. It made me want to ... I was like, "I can do this."

Brian:     It turns out you can. Look at you go.

Billy Winn:     I was already like on the trajectory. I just didn't realize it, but once I made the decision to focus more so on music, I just incorporated everything else, the acting and the dancing and all that good stuff.

Brian:     Got it. Now, there's a lot ... I mean, you talked about high-energy dance shows and stuff. When people see you live, describe what a live Billy Winn show is like. Is there dancers, is it dancing, is it singing, is it ... ?

Billy Winn:     When I think about performing for me, I want to give a full show, like you would see at a circus, like Circus Olay, something like that. So, it's always like performance art to a certain degree. It's going to be dancing, flipping. If you make it to the Capital Pride show, there's going to be some smoke machines and some confetti and lot of fun stuff.

Brian:     Oh hell yeah.

Billy Winn:     It's going to be [crosstalk 00:03:00] show.

Brian:     All right. So, it's a heck of a show. What about you? So, there's this ... Before I jump to that, I also want to touch on ... So, singer and song writer. Talk about your music, because sometimes in the world of pop music and the music today, sometimes you just sing or you song write or little bit of both. How does music come together for you when we hear your stuff on the radio?

Billy Winn:     Singing is just a natural gift just like every other facet of performing that I have dancing and acting. I can sing. I just focused on singing to become better at it and to make it the focal point because I really, really love music. But like I said, I was 10 when I decided I want to be a recording artist. I have a weird process when I think and I was like, "Okay, well, what does a singer need? A singer needs songs." I didn't know any song writers at the time so I decided that, "Okay, well, I can write my own songs," like Immediately following [inaudible 00:03:58] I didn't want to be a recording artist, I started writing my own songs.

Brian:     Got it. Now is it, do you use a keyboard or is it you and a guitar?

Billy Winn:     It's so many different ways at this point. When I was ... The one thing that I never really did starting out was play instruments.

Brian:     Got it. Okay.

Billy Winn:     So, I would always write a cappella, but what I didn't realize I was doing was actually still writing chords and writing melodies and things like that. Nowadays, I'd use a keyboard and I really want to start using a guitar more. I don't know why I'm afraid to, but there's something about it that intimidates me, but I really want to start using the guitar more.

Brian:     I hope you do. That will be a wild addition to your set when all of a sudden you pull out a guitar and sit down.

Billy Winn:     I really will like to do that.

Brian:     [crosstalk 00:04:41].

Billy Winn:     I want that shock.

Brian:     You told us all here. So, we hope that ... I hope I get to see that.

Billy Winn:     I know. I said it live on the air.

Brian:     I want a YouTube video. You said it live on the air. Once you say it, it's a thing. Now, so, on the personal side, then outside of the music thing, what do you do in your free time? What's life like for you?

Billy Winn:     I am probably the most boring person you could ever meet outside of music.

Brian:     Oh stop it.

Billy Winn:     I travel a lot, like I have a really extensive social life and that part of me is fun, but if I'm home, like before I got here. I was watching cartoons on Hulu like all day.

Brian:     Nice.

Billy Winn:     That's what I'd do. Me and my dogs, we just chill out and we watch TV.

Brian:     What kind of dogs?

Billy Winn:     I have a pug. He's all black.

Brian:     Got it.

Billy Winn:     I have a Maltese Shih Tzu mix. He kind of looks like [carladeville 00:05:35].

Brian:     Wow. Okay. Those two together, all right. "So, I got the dogs, do some marathon, TV watching."

Billy Winn:     Mostly cartoons.

Brian:     Nice.

Billy Winn:     I'm a comic book geek, so I watch Justice League and X-Men and all that stuff.

Brian:     Oh excellent.

Billy Winn:     If you didn't know, they're on Hulu and Netflix, so I binge all the time.

Brian:     Nice. Okay. So, we got that. This is a fun question that I love to ask, but that's ... Talk about your ... Tell me a story about a time you tried and failed.

Billy Winn:     Ooh, that's a good one. So, one of the reasons why I'm so happy to do this interview is to talk about a situation that sort of happened not too long ago. A lot of people ask me ... I get a lot of fan questions about where my album is, if I've ever done an album. The answer to that question is I did actually record an album. Back in 2013, I recorded an album at the time I was signed to an indie label that was signed to Universal.

Brian:     Oh okay.

Billy Winn:     My producer and I at the time, [rainer 00:06:50] hot net of 180 Music, we sat down and we did like 25 tracks. We were spending like ...

Brian:     25?

Billy Winn:     Yeah.

Brian:     Wow.

Billy Winn:     It was like 18-hour days in the studio, mixing and mastering and recording. I actually did an album. It ended up being like 13 tracks.

Brian:     Okay.

Billy Winn:     At the time that the album was being finished, the indie label lost their funding and everything just sort of fell apart. So, I did an album. Since that time, parts of it have sort of been ... It's been picked apart for various reasons, other record deals and singles that I've put out. The biggest failure for me was not getting to present that collection of music the way that it was supposed to be presented. I think I've been sort of on a journey to sort of reconcile that ever since.

Brian:     Wow. That must've been so frustrating, man.

Billy Winn:     Frustrating is the best way to put it. It was devastating to a degree, but it was more frustrating than anything, because you ... I felt like I was onto something that was really special and I didn't get to share it with the world the way that I intended to.

Brian:     Got it. It just occurred to me, earlier you talked about when the name came together or something, I meant to ask you. So, Billy Winn is your ... That is your real name or that is the stage name?

Billy Winn:     Technically, I mean, it's sort of my real name, but it's a stage name. I can't sign checks as Billy Winn.

Brian:     Got it. Do you hear it? You heard it here first, he can't sign checks as Billy Winn. There you go.

Billy Winn:     If they come looking for me, they're not going to look for Billy Winn.

Brian:     Where did the artist name came from then?

Billy Winn:     I wanted a name that sounded like, "Oh Hollywood," but I also didn't want a name that was so unfamiliar that I felt like people were calling to someone else. So, my first real name is William.

Brian:     Okay.

Billy Winn:     You get that much, just the first name.

Brian:     Okay, yeah, we're with you.

Billy Winn:     But my whole life, everybody just call me Billy, "Billy, Billy, Billy." Even when I went to elementary school, I freaked out on a teacher because she started calling me William and I had no idea who she was talking to.

Brian:     Wow.

Billy Winn:     Nobody had ever explained to me that Billy's a nickname. So, Winn is my mother's maiden name.

Brian:     Got it.

Billy Winn:     And so I said, "You know, Billy Winn sounds like, "Oh Hollywood, James Dean, Marilyn Monroe, Billy Winn."

Brian:     That's cool. Now, when you hear it ... When I hear your name, sometimes that good rap song (singing). I feel like all of a sudden that's like an anthem or something, is it?

Billy Winn:     I never actually ...

Brian:     I'm teasing you.

Billy Winn:     I know. I never thought about it that way, but now the next time I hear that song ...

Brian:     I changed it for you forever?

Billy Winn:     Yeah.

Brian:     I'm honored to have done that for you, sir, because you changed it for me forever. It's like, "Yeah, he's got it."

Billy Winn:     Well, I appreciate it.

Brian:     "It's like his life story in a song." I love it. That's cool. All right. Now, what's something in your music collection that might surprise us?

Billy Winn:     I listen to like everything. I know some people ... I know a lot of people probably hear my songs ... And it happens. They get their impression of a person from their music. But me, I listen to everything. My music taste is very broad. So, I think if I were to just choose something, the thing that probably would surprise most people is I listen to a lot of opera.

Brian:     Really?

Billy Winn:     Yeah.

Brian:     Okay.

Billy Winn:     I have a favorite opera.

Brian:     Which is?

Billy Winn:     The Magic Flute.

Brian:     Wow, okay. Well, you listening out there, check out The Magic Flute. Next time you see Billy, have him sing some for you. You're going to sing a little bit, huh?

Billy Winn:     Well, I don't know about that, but ...

Brian:     Oh okay.

Billy Winn:     ... I'll play my favorite [inaudible 00:10:48] but I don't think I'm going to ... I don't think I'm that good.

Brian:     I got one more question for you. It's my favorite one ask every episode and that's, if you could offer one piece of advice, what would it be?

Billy Winn:     Stay true to your artistry, whatever that is. I think that, especially being an indie artist and meeting a lot of artists in the DC metro area, the one thing that I can say for sure is that everyone that I've met here, they're very true to what it is that they do as artists. It isn't necessarily about trying to fit into a particular market, which I think is one of the beauties of the DC music scene. It can sort of be a double-edged sword depending on where you come from in terms of music and your goals, but I think just staying true to yourself as an artist and what it is that you want to do and present to the world is the most important thing.

Brian:     I like that and that's challenging in today's day and age, man. People tell you all kinds of things that contradict it. So, be true. That's so true.

Billy Winn:     Trust what you have. I still hear some strange things as to why people won't play records or book shows. I'm always like, "What are you talking about?" It happens.

Brian:     All right. Stay true. I dig it. Now I have folks who want to find out more about you or follow you, where do they go?

Billy Winn:     I'm all over social media, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, SoundCloud. If you search Billy Winn Music, it's B-I-L-L-Y W-I-N-N Music. That would be my Facebook and my Instagram.

Brian:     Got it.

Billy Winn:     Twitter is just Billy Winn ... @billywinn on Twitter.

Brian:     Got it.

Billy Winn:     You can search Billy Winn Music pretty much on YouTube and SoundCloud and have my stuff.