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1/30/18 - Special Guest: Eugene & Dion of the DC Music Video TV Show 'Display'

Thanks to Eugene & Dion, creators of the DC Artist Music Video TV Show 'Display' for hanging out with us in the studio this week!

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  1. Vernacular(Blue), by Dior Ashley Brown (Hip Hop, Funk)

  2. Above It, by Tabi Bonney (Pop/Electronic)

  3. Money, by MICCA (Hip Hop)

  4. Blowing Smoke, by Carolyn Malachi ft Trey Eley (Jazz, R&B)

  5. Hate, by Eta Money Roe (Hip Hop)

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We’re continuing our work on good playlists for you, this one is for the Blues!  If you love the Blues, we hope you’ll follow this playlist and check out these artists, go see them live.  We’ll keep adding to this playlist as we find more great tracks!


Our 2018 New Releases by DC Artists’ Spotify Playlist:


Exclusive WORLD PREMIERE - Carter Lou & The Project - Annabelle

Caz Gardiner - Everybody

Our ‘DC Artists Official Music Videos’ Youtube Playlist:


Check the calendar, linked below, for the full list!

Fri Feb 2
Honest Haloway @ U Street Music Hall on U St
Black Masala @ Pearl Street Warehouse at The Wharf
Adwela & The Uprising @ Jammin Java in Vienna

Sat Feb 3
Feelfree & Nappy Riddem @ Gypsy Sally’s in Georgetown

Mon Feb 5
Backbeat Underground @ Kennedy Center Millenium Stage by Foggy Bottom

Tues Feb 6
Wanted Man @ Union Stage at The Wharf by Waterfront

Wed Feb 7
Kipyn Martin @ Pearl Street Warehouse at The Wharf by Waterfront


Would you support us?  We'd love to grow and do more!  We're giving away shirts, access to our private facebook group, and more!  We also intend to set aside 10% to contribute directly in the DC Local Music Scene through charities, sponsorships, events, etc.  We want to continue to pay it forward!

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--Daniel Warren Hill    --David Mohl    --Eli Lev    --Sarah Byrne

Eugene Thorpe & Dion Dove of "Display"


Display's Bio:

Eugene & Dion

"Display" was created in the spring of 2016 by Eugene Thorpe and Dion Dove. The show serves as a vehicle for DC area artists to have their work showcased as part of the DC Office of Film, Television and Entertainment. Airing on DC cable channel 16, Display illuminates DC in a different light, away from the Capitol Building and the National Mall.

The show features a very eclectic array of performers celebrating the abundant diversity the DC region has to offer.

Now in its fourth season, Display has been able to expand its audience by way of the RCN cable network. The show now airs in Chicago, Philadelphia, New York and Boston as well as Washington D.C.


Link to Display S1 E1:

'Display' Youtube Playlist (Watch all the episodes here, great for parties too, just let it run):

DC OCTFME Facebook:

Eugene Thorpe & Dion Dove pic


Brian:     On DC Music Rocks we're shining a spotlight on the great songs, artists, and incredible people behind the DC regions local music scene. Display was created in the spring of 2016 by Eugene and Dion of the DC office of music and entertainment. The TV show showcases the music videos of DC area artists. It airs on DC cable channel 16. Display illuminates DC's musical talent, leaving behind the politics and government and it celebrates the abundant diversity the DC region has to offer. So, now entering yet another season, the fourth season, Display's been able to expand its audience by way of the RCN cable network because it's now airing in Chicago, Philadelphia, New York, those other cities that they were just talking about. So, display is great things.  I met Eugene when my band Fellowcraft was fortunate enough to play on the show, The Sound, that he was talking about. It's a TV show and I met him either and he was talking about this music video thing and it was like, "Well, gosh, I have a whole collection of music video's. I've got a youtube playlist of more than ... I think I'm approaching 200 or more music videos by local artists. Hey we should collaborate," and we've been collaborating ever since.

Eugene:     And one of the reasons we came here was to personally say thank you.

Dion:     Much love. [inaudible 00:01:12] Much love.

Eugene:     That's funny because when we started this show I went to Dion and I said, "What if we put together a music video show?" He had shot some videos. He had made some videos. I knew a few guys who had made video's. So, I said, "What if we made a show out of the things that we had." So, we sort of counted them up and we had enough videos for one show. It was hilarious because we were like, "Okay, we're going to make this show but we're gonna make this show. We're gonna make the whole thing." So, we're actually sneaking into work early ...

Dion:     An hour early.

Eugene:     An hour early and shooting it while nobody's around.

Dion:     Right.

Brian:     Wow.

Eugene:     The thing I love about the first ... If you guys go on the website, you look at the first episode, there's a clock above Dion's head and as you can se us working through the show and it says, 8:02 and then it says 8:23, 8:47. So, as he's signing off it says, 8:53.

Dion:     We got to start work at 9:00am.

Eugene:     Right there. So, we would get right up to the end oof it ad so we did the whole thing. We put commercials in it. WE did the whole show as if it was already on the air.

Dion:     Right, the craziest part is we had to take it up to Miss Gates, to let her check it out. So, we would take it up there to her and Derrick, who's our chief of staff. We had to cut the lights off and try to set the mood. If we handed out popcorn that would have made it a little bit better. We had the lights off and we just put it on and just let the day face us more than anything and they was very appreciative of the show and man it's our full season now.

Eugene:     Yeah, and to Angie's credit, one of the first things she said when she came, was, "Look if there's something that we can put together, as long as it conforms to the rules and it doesn't get us in trouble, then let's go ahead and do it." So, I sort of looked at Dion and he looked at me like, "Okay, I got something for you," and we put the whole thing together and so we put it together. We kicked the names around. The name Display comes from Trouble Folk actually. When they used to come on they used to have a thing where they would say, "Who we gonna put on display," meaning, who are we gonna shine the light on. Who are we going to present to this audience? That's what Display means. That's where the name comes from.   So, once we explained that to here and she was like, "Okay. I like that. I like the way that goes."

Brian:     Who's idea was that? Was that you? Dion? Or was that Eugene? Who was that? Display?

Eugene:     That wasn't the first title. I forgot what the first one was but we sort of came around to Display because I think it was two words at first but then we sort of shortened it and everything but yeah that was the idea was to use that same thing that Trouble Folk did, where we gonna put these artists on display. We're gonna put these videos on display.

Brian:     That's awesome.

Eugene:     That's where the name came from.

Brian:     I get it now.

Eugene:     Yeah.

Dion:     Display.

Brian:     That's amazing. What is it that makes Display unique or different or ...

Dion:     The locals. The locals make it unique. The local music. The local clothing. The food that is in the videos, you know we like a lot of restaurants from the area and that's what make it unique rather than looking at a big video show and seeing all these spots you've already seen before. A lot of people haven't seen a lot of the shots that we have in DC. I feel that's a good look for us.

Brian:     I do have to say in some of the music videos, if you actually watch the videos you guys have and you watch, you'll see your neighborhood. You'll see places you've been. You were just there last night, it might have been a bar and alley. I used to walk down that alley on the way to get to somewhere. I'm mean there's so many places that come up in people lives in these videos too.

Eugene:     That's one of the things we wanted to key on was to look for videos that showed the city. That showed different parts of the city.

Brian:     Nice.

Eugene:     And amazingly, thanks to you, we were able to expand that and the thing that I lie about what we've been able to do over time is I think it's a real eclectic play list. You know what I mean?

Brian:     Oh, it is. You guys have a real collection.

Eugene:     It's a real range of things that are on there. There's a lot of different things on there and we don't ... It takes a lot for us to say no. Say, "Okay, we can't put this on." Almost anything else, we will try. We will try very hard to get it on and there's so many people that have messages and points. One of the ... Elena & Los Fulanos.

Brian:     Elana & Los Fulanos.

Eugene:     Los Fulanos, thank you. I love her videos. Her videos are so great because of the message. I watch the videos. I was like, "Okay, we got to put this on the show." This is important to put this on this show. You know what I mean?

Brian:     Yes. It's very current. I mean current events, stuff that's happening right now.

Eugene:     Right.

Brian:     It's true.

Eugene:     Right, and a lot of the videos are that and a lot of the videos have that. A lot of the videos are talking about current things and politics and we didn't want to shy away from that. We wanted to make sure that those videos had a place to be shown, a place for people to see them and for the points that they're making to get further out. That was a really important thing for us.

Brian:     That's amazing guys. Let switch the spotlight to you guys personally now. What are your DC connections? Have you guys always been DC? Did you come from somewhere? What part of the city are you in? You go first.

Dion:     I'm from here. My mother Robin [inaudible 00:07:17]. Hey mom. She from South East. My fathers from Uptown, fourth and [inaudible 00:07:22]. Hello. I grew up in Hillcrest Heights, right by [inaudible 00:07:26] avenue.

Brian:     Nice.

Eugene:     Which is ironic because that's where my wife grew up.

Brian:     Yeah, and now you've got this Display project together. You got a baby called Display together. There you go.

Eugene:     My wife grew up in the same place but I moved down here from Jersey when I was a kid in the fifth grade. So, I've been here ever since, okay.

Brian:     Okay. [inaudible 00:07:49] And what part of the city are you in?

Eugene:     I'm in Silver Spring. I've been in Silver Spring the whole time. It's been an interesting to be that close to a major city and to be close to this city in particular, I think was a real tremendous thing to grow up, to be in this particular place too. You can drive down North Capitol Street and you see the Capitol Building. You go, "Wow," you know what I mean? I used to trip out about stuff like that and just being able to see the government, you know, the official Washington DC, and then the neighborhoods of Washington DC. The city where everybody lives in Washington DC. So, it's been a terrific experience to be here, to come back to work here, and now to work as part of the city government.

Brian:     City government, absolutely. What are you guys ... On the personal side now, talk about outside of work. So, we know you do Display, and you work down at that OCTFME, the Office of Music entertainment. What outside of that? Hobbies? What do you guys do?

Eugene:     We work on a lot of music. In fact, that's how we got started. That's how we got started working together. We worked at the agency, and we had a Christmas party one year, and I was very new to the agency at the time. I had only been there about a year, maybe two years or so. So, it was still very new. I didn't know a lot of people at the agency. So, one Christmas party, this guy gets up and he performs this rap song, and I said, "This song is corny."

Brian:     Please tell me that was Dion.

Eugene:     It was Dion.

Brian:     Oh. So good. All right, corny rap. Dion. Really?

Eugene:     I was like, "You know what though I want to hear him really run, not in front of the boss" ...

Dion:     I had the boss there. I was really just PG. PG 11. It wasn't even 13.

Eugene:     Right. So, I was like, "I want to hear this guy really rhyme." We linked up that day and maybe two weeks to a month later, we started making songs.

Dion:     I actually did the theme song for the show.

Brian:     For Display when you watch the show. That's Dion.

Dion:     That's my voice you hear when we're coming on.

Brian:     What about hobbies do you guys like? Are you into TV or around town?

Dion:     Hobbies. We're pretty much into a lot of the same things and right now we're into movies. That's our next venture. We actually just won a film festival in DC. Gene was the editor. I was the sound man and the clapper and everything else.

Brian:     Little bit of everything.

Dion:     I was the director.

Brian:     Good gracious. Well congratulations, which film festival was that?

Dion:     The DC Independent Go Film Festival.

Brian:     Nice.

Dion:     We went to the Black Home Festival in Miami, came in the top 20. In Atlanta, we had the Peace Tree Film Festival but I missed the email, so we missed going to the event.

Eugene:     It was a 30 minute short film called Stay Tuned and it was a comedy, which to me made it interesting because you go to film festivals and all these things and everybody wants to be deep, you know, [inaudible 00:11:20] staring out a window for 20 minutes. So, the fact that we made a comedy and made people laugh. We were like, "If we made one person laugh, then we did it."

Dion:     The first person we showed was Angie Gates and if she didn't green light it we wouldn't have showed nobody but she laughed when it first came on and that gave us a little confidence to keep on rolling.

Brian:     I love how supportive she is. She's so supportive, her and mayor [inaudible 00:11:49], both of them.

Eugene:     Yes indeed.

Brian:     So supportive of the arts and stuff and people don't know that necessarily because it's such a government town but yeah, DC definitely has 202 creates. If you go to you'll see some of that stuff that they're doing with that local music. I just gotta get a shout out to both of them. I love that she green lit your little project and all that stuff. Eugene I want to give you a shout out too because you shared with me you made music on the side too. So, let me just play ... This is you right? This is some of the stuff you made.

Dion:     Give em something. Give em something.

Eugene:     Yeah, this is a ...

Dion:     Let it go. Let it go.

Eugene:     Yeah.

Brian:     Nice.

Dion:     That's geno right there baby. Sound good.

Brian:     So, you do that stuff and that's the music for Display. You use it around work?

Eugene:     The version 23 project, it began as a file really. A file in my computer.

Brian:     There were 22 not good versions. Keep version 23.

Eugene:     Right. Right.

Brian:     It takes practice guys. It takes practice.

Dion:     [inaudible 00:12:58]

Brian:     You want to know how long it took us to make an album, 23 times, that's how.

Eugene:     Exactly. That became just the file name and it was sort of an outlet just do the music that was sort of in between the beats that I was doing for Dion or the beats that I was doing for somebody else. I had a bunch of other stuff that I kept and some of it I use for whatever we're working on, some of the shows, some of the TV shows, some of the other things but it's something that, to answer your question, that is my hobby. That is definitely my hobby right there.

Brian:     You guys, my favorite question to ask is if you could offer one piece of advice what would it be?

Dion:     Oh man.

Eugene:     Eat before the gig. That's the first piece of advice somebody told me and I'm passing it on.

Dion:     My would be treat other people how you want to be treated.

Eugene:     For sure.

Brian:     Say more on that. What does that mean?

Eugene:     I mean however you want to be treated. If you go into a building and you see somebody the janitor or the president in the building treat both of them the same. Don't treat one of them no different than the other. If you treat both of them the same I'm pretty sure they'll treat you the same as well.

Brian:     That's awesome. Be nice. It's like that common stuff but people forget sometimes and so remember to be nice and eat before the gig.

Eugene:     Eat before the gig.

Brian:     Oh my god, I love it. All right. Now, for those folks who want to follow the cool stuff you're doing and more about Display and the show, where do they go?

Eugene:     The links for Display are on our YouTube on the agency ...

Brian:     Website.

Eugene:     Website. And the YouTube page ...

Brian:     What's the website?

Dion:     Entertain_@DC.

Eugene:     Entertain_@DC

Brian:     I think it's I think was the one.

Eugene: and then on our YouTube page under entertain_DC we have a YouTube page and all of the shows have their own tab so that you'll see a separate tab for Display and all of the shows, all three seasons are there.

Brian:     So, if you're listening I hope you go to YouTube. Type in entertain_DC and then go check out episodes of Display and watch all these amazing music videos that these guys have.

Dion:     Check us out.

Eugene:     And it's interesting because a lot of people have said that they just put he show on and just leave it like it's a regular show and they'll binge watch two or three of them.

Brian:     I feel like it's old school MTV when you used to have it on and that was your music and there's a video to go with it, you've got that.

Eugene:     And that was the idea. That was what we wanted to do and I also have a big shout out to our number one viewer and it's Dion's mom. That's Dion's mom.

Brian:     Hi mom. I love it.

Eugene:     Mr. and Mrs. [inaudible 00:15:51].

Brian:     I love it.

Eugene:     They sit in the house each Friday.

Dion:     A popcorn.

Eugene:     A thing of popcorn and they watch their son on the show.

Brian:     That's amazing. I love it.

January 17, 2017 - Special Guest: Julianne Brienza of Capital Fringe

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  1. Chasing (feat. Matt Beilis) - Tabi Bonney (Pop/Electronic)
  2. Hallelujah (feat. Birds of Chicago) - Domenic Cicala (Rock/Country)
  3. Arroyo (feat. Don Zientara) - Nina Heart (Indie/Slacker)
  4. Free Fall - Will Eastman (Techno)
  5. Impala - Near Northeast (Indie/Folk)
  6. Sweet and Sour - Janel and Anthony (Indie/Avant Jazz)
  7. Intro/Outro music by Fellowcraft (Hard Rock/Blues)

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Julianne Brienza

Video - Bio - Photos - Links


Julianne is a passionate, inspiring, and unconventional arts leader and community builder. She is a founder of Capital Fringe, leading the award-winning organization since it's inception in 2005. For over a decade, Julianne has guided Capital Fringe’s vision, evolution, and growth, plus community development. In the process, she has grown the organization’s budget from $300,000 to $1.7 million and designed, shaped, and implemented programs that have engaged adventurous audiences, along with local, national, and international exploratory artists.

Under her leadership, Capital Fringe has won numerous awards, including two Mayor’s Awards and the Washington Business Journal’s “Non Profit of the Year.” Julianne is a recipient of the Mayor’s Arts Award for Visionary Leadership.

Prior to founding Capital Fringe, Julianne moved to Washington, DC., in December of 2003 in order to manage Cultural DC’s Flashpoint project. She programmed Flashpoint venues, managed their arts incubator program, recruited participants, and managed the facility. While at Cultural DC, Julianne started the Mead Theatre Lab Program, an intensive mentorship program for the performing arts that is still in existence.

Julianne came to Washington, DC., from Philadelphia, where she created and ran the Greenfield Elementary School artist-in-residency program for Mum Puppettheatre, which is still in existence. She also served as Managing Director of 1812 Productions, a non-profit theatre company, that focuses on comedy. Also, she worked with FringeArts for three years in various capacities from venue manager and box office, to performing in Festival productions. Previously, she was a Professional Apprentice with the Arden Theatre Company. Born and raised in Dillon, Montana, Julianne is a graduate of Viterbo University in La Crosse, Wisconsin, with a Bachelor of Fine Arts-Theatre, and Minors in, Philosophy and Visual Arts, Magna Cum Laude, and The Sandglass Theatre’s Puppet Residency at Marlboro College.


Interview Transcript

Brian:     Julianne Brienza is a passionate, inspiring, and unconventional arts leader in, and a community builder. She is a founder of Capital Fringe, and has been leading the award winning organization since it started in 2005. She's guided Capital Fringe's vision, its evolution, its growth, and its community development. Under her leadership Capital Fringe has won numerous awards including two Mayor's Awards and the Washington Business Journal's Nonprofit of the Year. Julianna herself is a recipient of the Mayor's Arts Award for Visionary Leadership.

                  She was born and raised in Dillon, Montana and is a graduate of Viterbo. Am I saying it right, Viterbo University?

Julianne:                It's Viterbo.

Brian:     Viterbo University in La Crosse, Wisconsin. She moved to DC in 2003 and prior to founding Capital Fringe she managed Cultural DC's flash point project. Also, while at Cultural DC, Julianne started the Mean Theatre Lab Program which is an intensive mentorship program for the performing arts that is still in existence today.

                  I came across Julianne at the Building the Music Capital Conference a few months back because Capital Fringe is doing amazing things with the music scene here in town. Listeners it is with great pleasure that I introduce Julianne Brienza.

Julianne:                Hello. All right. We're going to get to some of the DC artists that I've chosen to play. Is that right?

Brian:     I want you to share, but first I want to get to know you.

Julianne:                Oh I'm so sorry.

Brian:     Can we talk to you first? Is that okay.

Julianne:                I was listening to the second thing. I'm so sorry. I was so ready to play the music. Yes.

Brian:     That's cool. We're going to do it.

Julianne:                Yes. Let's talk it out.

Brian:     Talk about you first. Let's get to know you.

Julianne:                Okay.

Brian:     Now, you are, tell us about Capital Fringe and how did you get tied into that and tell us how that began.

Julianne:                Okay. Well, I moved here in December of 2003 to work for Cultural DC and it was really dead. It was a lot of gray suits. I wondered where the young people were with keys on their belt. I had lived in Philadelphia for three years before I came here and they had a fringe festival and it was really a great time where everybody got together, very unofficially to just be a community and know each other. I thought that was what was missing and so a group of us sort of got together and muscles the first Capital Fringe festival in 2006.

Brian:     When you say muscled, what does that mean?

Julianne:                I mean using physical muscles

Brian:     You forced this to happen. You were carrying the load on your back?

Julianne:                It was a pretty big undertaking for all of us that were involved at that time. I mean, right when we started, it takes a lot of money. You have to have money to do this. None of us were really independently wealthy so I think within our first year, our budget was about 300,000 and that was getting grants for something that had not existed before, kind of on a hope and a prayer and making it happen. Then the first year we had 96 groups in the festival.

Brian:     Holy smokes.

Julianne:                You know, we thought it would be awesome if we had 50.

Brian:     Now, this is a film festival, right?

Julianne:                No, no, no. It's a live performance, performing arts festival.

Brian:     Live performing arts, okay.

Julianne:                It's dance. It's puppetry. It's theater. Then really when we got into 2009 is when we really started inserting music through it.

Brian:     How has the music become part of Capital Fringe?

Julianne:                We first started just doing it during the summer festival, the fringe festival in July. We had a tent that we put up at the time and so we'd really just offer free concerts. It was just awesome. It was so great. We'd have the old theater guys being like, "I've never seen anything like this before." I'd be like, "No, because you're not going to the Velvet Lounge or DC9 at midnight on a Tuesday or something." Then it's just really since 2009 we've just continued to sort of increase how we present DC musicians. We really do try to focus on DC musicians. A lot of it is that we pay them or we set up a revenue model that isn't just about bar sales and all of that which is typical in the industry.

Brian:     Wow. How do you guys find, if there's musicians listening or something. How do you find the talent and how does the music side of Capital Fringe work?

Julianne:                It's ever evolving as we continue to sort of flail out into what we will eventually be and then keep evolving. A lot of the way that we do it is we have curators that do a lot of the curating for us. Jim Thompson who's a founding member of Gwar, he does other things too. It was a long time ago, but he's a great guy. He does a lot of music programming for us and Luke Stewart who's also in a lot of different bands does a lot of music curating for us as well.

Brian:     Curating meaning they decide who's going to come and play the venue?

Julianne:                Yeah we kind of do it as a collaborative effort because it can't be something where Capital Fringe just has to eat it. The curator is a paid position and then typically we'll either do tickets and then we'll do some sort of revenue share, or we pay the band a certain amount and it can also be we pay a band a certain amount and it's totally free, or we pay the band a certain amount and we do a ticket and we get to a certain point. If we sold tickets then we go into a revenue sharing there.

Brian:     Got it. Now, for listeners who've never been to Capital Fringe, tell us about the venue. Where is it? What is it like?

Julianne:                We purchased a building at the end of 2014. It was a really big deal, still a big deal. It's the Logan Fringe Art Space. It's at 1358 Florida Avenue North East. We're just one block off H Street. If you've been to the Atlas Performing Arts Center, just come on over one more block.

Brian:     Nice.

Julianne:                We have a little theater. It's called the Trinidad Theater. You can fit in about 200 people in there. We do a variety of things. We got a full service bar that's open and you can drink.

Brian:     Wow. How many nights a week in the music there is?

Julianne:                We have done a lot of different things since we first opened. Right now we're really just kind of an event space. We are going to be doing a big renovation in October. We're going to be closing for a year and doing a huge renovation that will actually get us a really awesome music venue and theater venue and full restaurant kitchen when we're done. Right now, we're really, when we first opened we were open all the time, but we got to build up ourselves a little bit more until we can do that and have proper equipment and all that stuff. We're on the track.

Brian:     Sure.

Julianne:                We're on the track to get there.

Brian:     Now, with everything going on with Capital Fringe, you've got a lot going on, clearly. When yo do get some free time, tell us about that side of Julianne. What do you do with yourself when you're off?

Julianne:                Well, I will just be really honest. I don't really have a lot of free time, which is just, you know, the career things I've chosen to do. I often bite off more than I can chew. I really do love feeling inspired to see the performing arts and so I love going to the 9:30 Club. I love going to U Street Music Hall. I love seeing shows. Theater, I love doing that. I also really love to travel. Actually, I've found that with my current endeavors, it's often just I get out of town, just to really feel like I'm not in my zone of oh I've got to work this angle and this environment so I can get this thing to make something better. Yeah. I don't know. I really love live performance as a way that humans can communicate to each other in a way that you can't really do in any other way. I just really like to take that in. I do that personally and professionally.

Brian:     What about funniest moments in what you've been doing with Capital Fringe? What comes to mind? Funniest moments.

Julianne:                Funniest moments. One that may be funny right now. I guess it was like in May, I don't know. I was sort of stressed out so I dyed my hair. I dye my hair a lot but I totally went like white blond. I didn't really think much of it because I've had my hair that color before, but people really did not recognize me and it was awesome.

Brian:     Say more about that. It was awesome, because why? 

Julianne:                Sometimes when I'm in certain situations, I have to like talk to a lot of people and sometimes you might not want to. I did get in sort of the habit of wearing like sunglasses, but that didn't really work. The hair dye a lot, like even on Sunday night I was at arena stage seeing a show and a guy that I know walked right by me, did not recognize me at all. I was like, wow, this is still going ton.

Brian:     This has been how long now? How long has the hair been blonde? 

Julianne:                It's been since May and I don't know what I'm doing with my hair. It's not really. It's been really funny. I think it's probably for me, to chuckle about it and maybe some of my staff that I get to tell them stories about, oh my god that person just walked by me.

Brian:     What about a time that you tried and failed? What's an example of that one?

Julianne:                Like all the time. I really love failure, which is probably not a normal response. I actually think if you get failure it means that you're getting closer to actually getting to something real. I don't know. I fail all the time. I fail at using my computer. I've been having a lot of issues with my computer that has made my work a little bit slower recently. I apologize if you haven't heard from me. You know, I feel like I don't have a big, like I fell down and I failed but I really do fail all the time. What I'm doing right now, I'm trying to do this huge renovation on our building. It's a lot of money to do it. To do the renovation is going to be about 2.7 million and while I have good stats and all that stuff, and the trajectory seems logical and everything, but it could totally fail. I believe in the DC arts community so I don't think it will totally, but it might.

Brian:     Got it. Yeah. Then, and a time when you succeeded then? Big success moment? You're trying and maybe not trying and failing but so what about succeeding? What comes to mind?

Julianne:                I really feel success when people come to stuff at fringe and they're just hanging out, and it's not fancy. It's all different types of people and they get to talk to each other and they get to see things that they normally wouldn't see. The other night at the space we had, there was that concert at the 9:30 Club for the guy who died from the Urban Verbs. They all came over to the space afterwards to look at Bill Worrell has an art exhibit. Bill Worrell is the founder of DC Space and then a co-founder of the 9:30 Club. He's also a local artist and he has his first visual art show in our space. They all came over. It's a bunch of old dudes living it up, talking about the times and then we got loading in a birthday party for a local theater artist and just watching people kind of exchange looks and like, who are you? Well this is my space. Well what are you doing here now? Then the people coming together. That's a success to me. I like stuff like that.

Brian:     Awesome. I love stories like that too. It's amazing how arts can bring the community together. It really does. Now, what's one piece of advice that you would offer?

Julianne:                To who? About what?

Brian:     To the DC community in general. If you had one piece of, this is my favorite last question for the guest. What's one piece of advice you would offer?

Julianne:                I think you know what? A time where our nation is just really, it's crazy times right? I think it's really important to pay, and I think no matter where you're at, just pay attention to your neighbors. Be kind to your neighbors. Realize that you are in a community and you can make an impact in your community.

           I think to really start, to have that be your start position versus getting overly obsessed with everything that's national all the time. If we really just start working at stuff that we could touch, we could look at our neighbors in the eyes and say something nice to them, and invite them to do something, that's going to really create change. I would really, that's my advice.