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11/28/17 - Special Guest: Lisa White, Talent Buyer for Pearl Street Warehouse!

Thanks to Lisa V. White, Talent Buyer for Pearl Street Warehouse down at The Wharf in DC, for hanging out with us in the studio this week!

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  1. Always, by QOK (Pop, Pop Rock)
  2. Lighters, by The Chuck Brown Band (Funk, GoGo)
  3. Trouble Maker, by Eli Cook (Blues, Americana)
  4. Singing the Chorus, by Olivia Mancini and the Mates (Pop, Rock)
  5. My Baby Girl, by Justin Jones (Rock, Folk)

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On Tuesday, December 12, Pearl Street Warehouse  is throwing one big holiday party for all the small businesses in the area. Complete with holiday rock n' roll by local favorite Jonny Grave and the Tombstones, food, booze and decorations, Pearl Street Warehouse offers teams of 1 to 31 people, the holiday party they deserve. 
     Participating offices will have the opportunity to name a specialty cocktail, display their logo on the screens in the venue, and contribute a piece of swag to the event gift bag. Equal opportunity networking and partying. 
     There are two separate packages for the event, $75 per person for open bar, and $40 per person with beverage purchases on top. Companies can reserve their spot by emailing


Holiday New Releases
--Jason Masi - Christmas Songs & Musings (3 Song EP)
--Staunton - I’ll Be Home by Christmas

New Releases
--Lesson Zero - Lesson Won (14 Song Album)
--Broke Royals - Broke Royals (12 Song Album)
--By and By - Songs for This Old Heart (11 song album)
--Backbeat Underground, Aaron Abernathy - She don’t love me like I do (single)
--Peter Maybarduk - All That’s Left (single)
--Rent Party - Wasted (single)
--Area 301 - Can I Still Hit It (single)
--Luke James Shaffer - We’re All A Little Crazy (single)
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Dec 1 Fri
Olivia Mancini @ Pearl Street Warehouse at The Wharf (in SW DC)
Nappy Riddem @ Gypsy Sally’s in Georgetown (in NW DC)
Luke James Shaffer @ Shaw’s Tavern (in NW DC)

Dec 2 Sat
Of Tomorrow @ Gypsy Sally’s in Georgetown (in NW DC)
Sub-Radio @ Sauf Haus by Dupont (in NW DC)
Vintage #18 @ Hamilton Loft by Metro Center (in NW DC)

Dec 3 Sun
Caustic Casanova @ Rhizome (PR Benefit Concert) by Takoma (in NW DC)
Laura Tsaggaris @ Songbyrd Music House in Adams Morgan (in NW DC)

Dec 6 Wed
Lauren Calve @ Gypsy Sally’s in Georgetown (in NW DC)

Dec 7 Thu
Mystery Friends @ Black Cat in 14th St (in NW DC)


Would you support us?  We'd love to grow and do more!  We're giving away shirts, access to our private facebook group, and more!  We also intend to set aside 10% to contribute directly in the DC Local Music Scene through charities, sponsorships, events, etc.  We want to continue to pay it forward!

HUGE shoutout to our current Patrons! 
--Daniel Warren Hill  --David Mohl

Lisa White, Talent Buyer for Pearl Street Warehouse



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Lisa V. White has been involved in the Washington, DC music scene in one way or another for nearly 30 years, first as a DJ in video dance clubs, later as a music writer and editor for a local free arts tabloid, artist manager, independent band promoter, board member of the Washington Area Music Association, and as a talent buyer for 21 years at one of the country’s most respected live music venues, the 9:30 Club (capacity 500-1200), from 1991-2013. 

The 9:30 Club has presented the best talent in all music genres, from Tony Bennett to Slayer and everything in between, and has won industry resource Pollstar's Best Live Music Venue award multiple times. While at the 9:30 Club Lisa also was part of the marketing, promotion and advertising teams; handled day-to-day operations for the club’s in-house record label, 9:30 Records; coordinated production and logistics for many multi-act events; and also booked and managed several smaller artist development rooms: Republic Gardens, one of the pioneers in the resurgence of Washington, DC’s U St neighborhood, in 1995 (250 capacity); Fletcher’s in Baltimore, MD’s Fells Point (325 capacity) 1996-2002; and more recently booked shows on the 9:30 Club's behalf at U St Music Hall (500 capacity) from 2010 until leaving the 9:30 Club organization in 2013. 

After a year off for relaxation, spent mostly at her secondary home in Austin, TX, Lisa was head talent buyer and operations consultant for Gypsy Sally's, a start-up 450-capacity Americana music club in Washington, DC’s Georgetown neighborhood in 2014. Following that she was a talent buyer/operations consultant for the Harrisburg Mid-Town Arts Center, comprising a 200-capacity music venue, and launching an 800-capacity venue for live music and other events in Harrisburg, PA. 


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Brian:     On DC Music Rocks, we're shining a spotlight on the great songs, artists and incredible people behind the D.C. region's local music scene. So, Lisa V. White has been involved in the Washington D.C. music scene in one way or another, for nearly 30 years.

     First as a DJ, later as a music writer and editor and artist manager and independent band promoter, a board member of the Washington Area Music Association and as talent buyer for 21 years at the 9:30 Club from 1991 to 2013.

     After a year off for relaxation she spent mostly at her secondary home in Austin, Texas, Lisa was head talent buyer and operations consultant for Gypsy Sally's, which is start-up, 450 capacity Americana and music club in Washington D.C.'s Georgetown neighborhood. That was in 2014 and she's now at the new Pearl Street Warehouse.

     Let me say, it is such an honor to have you here, thank you for coming here and being with us today.

Lisa White:     Oh, well, thank you for having me in.

Brian:     And, now, that was my way of describing you, how would you describe yourself?

Lisa White:     Well, I did all that stuff.

Brian:     Sum up years and years of work in a matter of 30 seconds, yeah.

Lisa White:     Yeah, yeah.

Brian:     "That was me."

Lisa White:     I did all that stuff, yeah.

Brian:     Sounds right. Is there anything that I left out of there?

Lisa White:     Not really, I mean-

Brian:     Pretty much sums it up?

Lisa White:     I did college radio.

Brian:     Wow.

Lisa White:     I had my own radio show, in like 1980-something.

Brian:     Well, [crosstalk 01:29] it's an honor to have you back on the radio here, yeah.

Lisa White:     Yeah, yeah. It's nice to be back.

Brian:     It's a treat, my goodness. Now, share with us, it's called Pearl Street Warehouse, is there a story behind the name or is it really on Pearl Street, so they just called it Pearl Street Warehouse?

Lisa White:     Well, there's a story behind the name of the street.

Brian:     Oh?

Lisa White:     Pearl Street is a brand new street created in this development. It's really just a couple of blocks long, running from the water, which is the Washington Channel, to Maine Avenue. Pearl Street is named after a ship, it was a slave ship and the slaves tried to escape, with the ship. They made it all the way down the Potomac, almost to Mount Vernon before they were captured.

     The name of their ship was The Pearl, and so Pearl Street is named after The Pearl. That was in, I believe, the 1830s, it was certainly well before the Civil War. I was aware of that story, as part of the Washington D.C. history and so, I was interested in Pearl Street Warehouse for that reason. I liked the fact that the developers kind of paid tribute to them by naming the street after them.

     Pearl Street Warehouse, the owners of Pearl Street Warehouse, they also own Cantina Marina and the new Cantina Bambina, which is going to be down on The Wharf as well. They also have a record label, a couple of them, called Warehouse Records.

Brian:     Holy smokes, there's so much going on here.

Lisa White:     So, Pearl Street Warehouse, that's sort of the name, that's a long-winded way of telling you the name of the club.

Brian:     Lisa, I had no idea that was all connected, that is amazing.

Lisa White:     Yeah.

Brian:     Wow. Now, speaking of connected, how did you get connected into this?

Lisa White:     Well, I got connected through the 9:30 Club people, the owners of Pearl Street Warehouse, they reached out to the 9:30 Club to see if they were interested in booking Pearl Street Warehouse. The 9:30 Club said, "Well, no, you know, we kind of have our hands full with The Anthem and all the other stuff that we do, Americana's not our particular forte, but we know somebody who might be a really good fit for you."

     They put us in touch and I met with those guys and got along with them right away and I really liked their vision for the club. I felt like my background and the connections that I have could be an asset for them. I felt like I would really enjoy helping them to fulfill their vision for the club, so that's how it happened.

Brian:     Wow. When were you connected? This all happened in?

Lisa White:     March.

Brian:     March of 2017?

Lisa White:     Yeah.

Brian:     Oh, god.

Lisa White:     It was still very much a construction zone, going in there and doing a walkthrough, it was really hard to see how beautiful the club was going to become. It was really fascinating to be able to go through there and do regular walkthroughs and see the progress that was being made. To now be able to be in there, especially for something like Chuck Brown Band when it's packed and everybody's dancing and having a good time, just to feel that coming to fruition, it's great.

Brian:     That's it. Now, for folks who haven't been to Pearl Street Warehouse, there's chairs down in front, but if it turns into a dance party, in the middle of a show, will you guys take the tables out?

Lisa White:     No.

Brian:     Or, how does it work?

Lisa White:     Well, it's a very flexible space, so some shows will be like a full dance floor. On Saturday, we had another great D.C. band, Human Country Jukebox?

Brian:     Yeah.

Lisa White:     We did a dance lesson at that, too, a two-step lesson and we had an open dance floor for that.

Brian:     Awesome.

Lisa White:     But then, for somebody like, oh, who do we have coming up that's like an all-seated show? It'll be all-seated.

Brian:     Oh.

Lisa White:     We have a mezzanine level that's always all-seated.

Brian:     All right.

Lisa White:     That's up above and that's got a really nice view of the stage, but then otherwise, we just kind of figure out who's coming to the show, how many tables and chairs should we have, if any? We just kind of move them around.

Brian:     Yeah.

Lisa White:     If we need to have a dance floor, we can have a dance floor, if we need to have all-seated, we can, and we do anything in between.

Brian:     That's amazing. What is the, I guess what I was, I totally had a question and then it just flew out of my mind, it will come back, I'm sure it will.

Lisa White:     Well, I'll be here.

Brian:     Let me track that down. But, anyway, now, talk about you. You do this booking and, what about you on the personal side? Hobbies? What else do you do, aside from this?

Lisa White:     Well, I like dancing a lot and I live in Austin part-time, so I go down there and I mean, there's just so many great musicians in Austin. I really enjoy going out to see them, but then also, dancing's a really big part of the culture down there, so I'll go out dancing, you know, three, four, sometimes five times a week. Saturday afternoon, there's a really great dance thing, Sunday afternoon, there's a couple of great dance things.

Brian:     Wow.

Lisa White:     Yeah.

Brian:     What kind of music are you dancing to?

Lisa White:     Country, mostly, like honky-tonk kind of country.

Brian:     Ah, I got you.

Lisa White:     Yeah, yeah, so I'm two-stepping. Not line dancing.

Brian:     Oh, there it is.

Lisa White:     I'm not line dancing, I'm two-stepping.

Brian:     You said there was a dance lesson, did you teach the dance lesson?

Lisa White:     Actually, I did participate in the two-step lesson. There was-

Brian:     Awesome.

Lisa White:     Somebody else, Ben [Pajak 07:10] was teaching the lesson and then I was his dance partner. So, I helped with that.

Brian:     Wow, you got to demo the two-steps, though. I love it.

Lisa White:     Yeah, I did. It was fun.

Brian:     This is where-

Lisa White:     People were into it, I mean, really, I think we had about 50 people get up, to do the lesson.

Brian:     Do the lesson.

Lisa White:     Yeah.

Brian:     Oh, that is so cool.

Lisa White:     Yeah.

Brian:     I love [inaudible 07:30] Now, and when you think back on your career then, it sounds like you have so many memories, what is the biggest success moment that comes to mind for you, personally?

Lisa White:     Well, you know, it's always great to stand in the back of the room at a sold-out show and watch everybody singing along or dancing or whatever is called for the show. That's really the best kind of moment to have, I think, probably booking Booker T. Jones for the grand opening of Pearl Street Warehouse. He's from Booker T. & The M.G.'s and he's playing his Hammond B3 organ and he's playing that famous song, Green Onions, right there.

Brian:     Wow.

Lisa White:     Yeah, I mean, that was a real career highlight for me. It was a personal highlight to get to meet him and talk with him, he discovered and produced Bill Withers.

Brian:     Wow, that's just-

Lisa White:     He also worked with Willie Nelson and the Drive-By Truckers and a lot of other, you know, too many to mention. So, to be able to work with him and his family and his band.

Brian:     Yeah.

Lisa White:     Yeah, that was, yeah.

Brian:     You just reminded me, I wanted to ask you, when bands reach out to you, what are you looking for, when you're considering booking them? How does it work on your side, when they, "Hey, I'd love to book a show." What happens on your side?

Lisa White:     Well, I mean, you know, I have to look at the economics of it.

Brian:     Okay, what does that mean?

Lisa White:     The economics of it means, how many people are going to come?

Brian:     Got it.

Lisa White:     You know, how many tickets can they sell? I mean, it's going benefit them to play to an empty room and we're going to lose money if they do.

Brian:     Right. Exactly. So, if they reach out, what's the capacity of Pearl Street Warehouse?

Lisa White:     Well, if we do an all-seated, it's 150, if we do all-standing, it's 280.

Brian:     Wow, okay.

Lisa White:     Then we can, depending on seated, standing-

Brian:     Anywhere in between.

Lisa White:     We can do something between, yeah.

Brian:     So, if a band reached out to you and just said, "Look, we anticipate being able to bring 150." Does that make your job easier or is there still same amount of research that goes into it?

Lisa White:     Well, I still do my research, you know? Just to see, well, where are they drawing 150? Because, if I have somebody saying, "Well, we'd pull 500 people when we play in New York." Well, that doesn't mean, necessarily, that they're going to draw anybody when they play in Washington D.C., so I still have to do my research. I have people that I ask about certain musical genres that tend to know about those things.

Brian:     Yeah.

Lisa White:     I look at social media, but the thing about social media, it's so hard to tell where the followers are. Are the followers in this area and physically able to come to a show at Pearl Street Warehouse? Or, are they all over the country? I just don't know.

Brian:     What is the number that is the number that, if you go lower than that, you lose money, but this is the break-even point? What is that, at a venue like Pearl Street? Or how does that work?

Lisa White:     Well, I mean, you know, it all depends on how much I'm paying the band.

Brian:     Ah, okay.

Lisa White:     You know, that's my break-even point, is partly dependent on what I'm paying the band. How many people are in the band, because we feed everybody, you know? We give them dinner.

Brian:     Okay.

Lisa White:     So, if we've got a 20-person band, we're going to be spending a lot more, just on food alone. Not to mention beers, so, you know.

Brian:     Wow, yeah.

Lisa White:     Yeah, so it kind of varies. I mean, generally speaking, I need to be at least, just as a rule of thumb, I need to be at least 50% of capacity to have any hope of breaking even.

Brian:     Got it.

Lisa White:     Generally.

Brian:     Okay.

Lisa White:     Yeah.

Brian:     That makes sense. My favorite question is, if you could offer one piece of advice, what would it be?

Lisa White:     Oh, boy. Well, you know, there's just so many more than one pieces of advice that I could come up with, but I guess if I had to pick one thing, I would say, just be nice, you know? Just be nice, follow through, do what you say you're going to do.

Brian:     Be true to your word?

Lisa White:     Yeah.

Brian:     And be nice?

Lisa White:     Yeah.

Brian:     At the same time.

Lisa White:     Yeah.

Brian:     Got it. Do you have experience with that? Is that your own, personal mantra? That's what you do too, or is that more from experience from dealing with people for so many years?

Lisa White:     Yeah, I mean, you know, I think just life in general, you know? I feel like so many of the bands that we've had coming through Pearl Street Warehouse, recently, have just been like, "You guys have been so nice, you've taken such good care of us, it means a lot." It means a lot from our point of view too, when people show up on time, that's another one, please be on time.

Brian:     Public service announcement, I love it. Be on time.

Lisa White:     Yeah, you know, when people are on time and they're friendly, it means a lot.

Brian:     Got it. Now, one more time, for those folks who want to find out more about you and what you're doing and the cool things that you're doing at Pearl Street, where do they go?

Lisa White:

September 20, 2016 - Special Guest: Josh Stoltzfus, Director - Cultural Development, Arlington County, VA

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  2. Olivia & The Mates - Ruby Baby (Rock/Indie)
  3. The Harry Bells - Matilda (World/Jazz)
  4. Wanted Man - Pardon Me If I Stare (Rock/Blues)
  5. Cheick Hamala Diabate - Prudence - Whiskey Barons Mix (World)
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  7. Elikeh - Adja (World/West African Traditional)
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Josh Stoltzfus

Director - Cultural Affairs - Arlington, VA

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Primarily responsible for programming events presented by Arlington Arts, Stoltzfus brings over 15 years of experience in the arts working at such notable institutions as Wolf Trap, The Kennedy Center, Columbia Festival of the Arts, and Artisphere.  He holds a Bachelor of Music from Berklee College of Music and an MA in Arts management from American University.  Additionally he spent his early career working as an artist representative working with some of the leading names in American Roots and World Music. Before his career as arts administrator he was a working musician with numerous recording and performance credits having studied with such master blues guitarists such as Ronnie Earl and Wendell Holmes.

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Interview Transcript:

Brian: And now it's time for the special guests for the show which I've been so excited about. Have you ever been to an absolutely incredible festival or show which was put on in the community by the community and you wondered who sets up these events, how do they find these acts? Who are the incredible people whose life and career it is to provide the community these amazing gifts and listeners I am excited and beyond honored to have special guest Josh Stoltzfus, the director of cultural development for Arlington County on the show with me today. Say Hi to everybody Josh.

Josh: Hey, thanks for having me on

Brian: Absolutely it an honor to have you here and let's find out more about you.

Josh: Let's jump right in.

Brian: Tell us more, tell us who Josh is and tell us about cultural director for Arlington county.

Josh: Yeah right. I guess so I mean maybe phase three of my career at this point I started out as a musician and that's why I grew up playing and I went to music school as guitar player, playing music for years and I was always playing in bands and working in music. So I was working for like Rounded records when I got out of school I had spent some time with booking and management companies. Well it was always like a split thing so I was playing music and then I was trying to make a living in the music business during the day which isn't an easy thing.

Brian: No (Laughs)

Josh: Neither of those things really so at some point I went back to school and then I transitioned into my career's presenter and representing working for different festivals, nonprofit organizations and then Arlington County.

Brian: Wow! Very cool and so now in Arlington county tell us, tell us what it means to do what you do.

Josh: Yeah. So Cultural Affairs Division is which is where I work is we provide material support to artists through grants and space and services, we have theaters that they can use and production support. We have a really strong public art program, we have humanities based work, we have just wrapped an incredible project about Vietnamese immigration here in Arlington with a publication that was cast down for the oral histories that have been collected over the years. We have strong visual arts representation which has just got approval to have our art truck which is going to roll out next year and be basically a mobile artist-in-residence space. So will have different artists that'll go out of the truck and bring our projects directly to the community, kind of a unique program for next year we'll start doing that and we do a fair amount of presenting too. So we have summer concert series we do out of love running up the theater which is outside of Boston and involved a couple of festivals Rosslyn Jazz festival which we just wrapped about two weeks ago, happens every year in September and that we work on Columbia Pike Blues festival as well and we have a global music series which is contemporary international music.

Brian: So it sounds like it's a lot of music and what would you say how much of it is, how much of what you do is about the music and how much is about arts or visual arts or is it a good spread, how’s it?

Josh: It's a really good mix and you know I would say in terms of the stuff that I am most directly nvolved in programming, it is a lot of music but the team that I work with as I said it's got their hands and all this other stuff visual arts, humanities work. I work next door the public art program. So see all the stuff that these guys are into and our worlds crossover on things too. So it's a good mix but yeah you're right there's a fair amount of music and I think it plays to like all the stuff that we do place the strength of the people that are working there happens to be what I do and so you know we do.

Brian: And how if folks are listening and they want to be involved with Arlington county with some of the music whether they want to get their musician and they want to potentially perform on love or honor if their fans or music fans that want to come check out some of the events, where did they go for that stuff how does that work?

Josh: Yeah sure so like as a musician if you're interested in doing a show working with something just reach out to me directly. I'm on the county website, go to and find my information there.

Brian: Ok.  I'll post the link to that stuff on the show. Yeah, to the folks that are listening.

Josh: Just email me and hardly anyone does this anymore but yes please don't send hard copies (Laughs)

Brian: Ok no CDs, emails.

Josh: I have actively tried to get rid of all my old CDs and so electronic stuff. Please I try to listen to everything so that means as far as like you know going to shows are participating in programs and although the stuff we're in, we're on Facebook of course. That Facebook is probably best way to stay up-to-date with things as they're rolling out.

Brian: Got it.

Josh:  So definitely like us there, follow us there.  We have an e-newsletter signup, check it out and we're fairly active. I would say is probably on any given week we've got at least one thing going on, sometimes in the busier seasons we've got two three different programs that we are having a week.

Brian: It is so there are seasons like summer season then I take it.

Josh: Yeah it's busy in the summer and the fall is a little slower and spring you know when we take off kind of on academic calendar but with a summer session

Brian: Got it. Ok

Josh: But December- January definitely slows down for us.

Brian: Got it.

Josh: From holidays to that

Brian: Makes sense.

Josh: And it's a little cold outside so all the stuff has to be indoors anyway.

Brian:  It makes sense.

Josh: It picks up during the summer with the seasons.

Brian:  So now over the years you've been at this music thing for a while. Tell us your connection to music before you got into it from the booking and the cultural development side, what you played instruments tell us about that.

Josh: Yeah. So I'm guitar player by training that's what I you know grew up playing in, you know, garage bands and high school junior high actually you know playing it 12-13 years old plan clubs and stuff, it's 16 sneaking and all that.

Brian: Wow!

Josh: Alright, did that all throughout college and afterwards as well played a lot of, you know, roots American Music interested in, really into the blues, you know, rock music which I grew up on and you know pretty wide interest jazz, international stuff, honky-tonk, you know, there's not too much I don't like.

Brian: Got it.

Josh: And playing the stuff first.

Brian: And then you transition, how long do you still play guitar now? On the side with the kids or …

Josh: Yeah, yeah. It's like so it's kind of the audience now tends to be more the dog in and my toddlers at home.

Brian: (Laughs) The best audience.

Josh: Yeah you cannot do anything wrong with them. I still play a little bit there was a time where I was more transitioning and I was playing still more regularly but now it's pretty rare but I get out there may be two or three times a year and do stuff.

Brian: Gotcha. And so now in the history of all of this cultural development in this stuff that lets say with Arlington county what's your proudest or coolest moment that comes to mind when you think back on what you've been doing with the county?

Josh: Hmm.. That's I mean every show and every program is kind of you know unique in some way that has its own satisfaction and for me it's about that moment when find all the work that goes into the advanced you know from discovering something to planning to all the logistical details and then you finally get to it and see you know when people come to it and like you're like oh you know this is you're not doing this in a vacuum. There's this whole audience that finds the shows and programs and see the that reaction you know. So I really sit in the audience, I tend to sit in the back because I want to watch the audience reaction to what's going on stage and to me that's what's the payoff. I value a unique opportunity to meet a lot of really amazing people over the years and you know almost none of them has disappointed, you know, you don't meet your heroes but I've never had that really bad experience (Laughs)

Brian: And that's great news

Josh: I love it and I got to say in the in the DC area there's definitely some amazing people that are involved in this music scene and even from outside. Just really genuinely awesome people that I've met, it's kind of cool to see to meet them and see them for real.

Josh: Well, that's the thing to let me think a little more about your question like being proud of us with stuff is that you know when you are able to grow with an artist and so maybe you're working at a new festival or a new venue and you take on working with someone who's also just getting started you are able to grow together and that what they do helps you and your program and you know vice versa. You're helping them as well. So that kind of mutual support and community is the unique thing.

Brian: Yeah, and so I want to jump forward here to what’s about the biggest lessons you've learned with what you do is that is there something that stands out as far as a lesson learned.

Josh: Yeah, a couple things you know. I would say one is and it's not a unique ceremony is that to trust your gut and like usually your first reaction is a good one if you have to think on it too long if you have too many questions about an artist or a program at some point you just got to go now we're going to move on this point. That's why you're trying to talk to yourself and you see the issues in front of you and you're really just trying to talk yourself into it for whatever reason and I actually find that's a good point to say we'll pick this up another time and maybe do it all the time.

Brian: Trust your gut. Ok. I can definitely I'm and that advice seems to just keep coming back all through life at the trust your gut thing. I guess I'm really curious now about doing what you do is it does all the music come to you how do you find your music. I mean obviously for work. You said people email it to you but how else do you find your music?

Josh: You know it's changed over the years obviously it's a lot easier you know being able to use the internet to find new music.

Brian: Yeah.

Josh: But it's also harder too because there are so many resources you have to find that filtering which otherwise you just get totally lost in it. So there are certain benchmarks stuff that I always fall back on. I was just like everybody I was listening to the all songs considered podcast earlier day and you know I try to check that our so the other NPR stuff like all that email as well you know that mutual or rather than that conglomeration of network of friends and colleagues and to select I try to ask everyone I know I make a point when we're talking whether it's an artist or another promoter or somebody just what you listen to what's new that you're digging on and that's often some of the best leads for stuff you know because you can't hear everything and no I'm like why so try and lean on each other and find stuff I think musicians are often really good resources for that because they're on the ground they're hearing so much stuff and I find that like another musician has something positive thing about another band that's a really good endorsement.

Brian: Absolutely. And with the radio to like I'm a local musician and I hear it here and obviously with the radio show that I connected with a lot of music and it really musicians are a great one if you don't have a really fun conversation talk to a local musician about great music in the area because they always have great stories and songs to share which is I mean that's part of how this radio show exists that very reason and one of the last questions that I would love to ask on these interviews is if you had one piece of advice you would offer to DC area musicians and one piece of advice to DC music fans what would that be?

Josh: Just one? (Laughs)

Brian: Yeah. Let's go with the Highland and give me one and I mean you're allowed to if you just die and yeah let's stick to what's the one that comes to mind.

Josh: I think the one you know and I'll say this as musician myself as someone who came up playing in bands and like it was the hustle and you know what you go through to get gigs, try to keep it just moving forward is for musicians just make sure that as much time you're spending on your art spend the same amount of time on your business and specifically the marketing aspect of your business, so pay attention to all those things and that it doesn't mean like you know the old days where are you going to add your headshot this and that things just be super conscious about how you're presenting yourself to your audience, to other clubs or whatever district people you're trying to connect with and pick work on that as much less as important as the music and I know that's maybe not the most part friendly sentiment and what is the reality because you can't get in the door if you can't distinguish yourself in some way it's not going to matter that you've got the great spring.

Brian: Right. So and that's a great one spend as much time marketing as you do on the music and then you get the more well-balanced thing and what about to the DC music fans?

Josh: Support local music

Brian: Yeah that's it. Favorite way that you think what would you say if you're supporting local music what does that mean to you?

Josh: Well. I mean and so we're talking about DC music specifically, right?

Brian: Yes, DC.

 Josh: This is universal force and that's I mean now with the changing economy it means going to shows because you know there's still haven't figured out the new way so that everyone's getting paid for the reported music industry that will become a viable revenue stream again for folks but in the meantime shows and by the merge but that's really all you want help.

Brian: So how could you help with the handout.

Josh: Have one less beverage at the show and put that money into a t-shirt or something and that can really support musicians.

Brian: And I can honestly say it is an awesome feeling when you walk out of the area and you found out that that three people walked out with shirts, 10 people walked out with shirts and CDs that feeling that they enjoyed it and they make music with you. DC music fans if you pick up some memories that's definitely awesome good stuff. So that with every guess that comes on the show I always challenged them to bring me awesome music and Josh delivered tenfold on that request so I am so excited to share the music that he brought with him so let's start, you said Harry Bells. What's this first track you've got for us?

Josh: You have to remind me what I brought.

Brian: Was it Matilda?

Josh: Matilda, yes.

Brian: Alright. So we got here is the Harry Bells with Matilda. Bye guys. You're awesome.

August 23, 2016 - Special Guest: Lisa Said

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  1. Nine to Five - Downtown (Punk/Rock)
  2. Veronneau - September Moon (Latin/Jazz)
  3. Empresarios - Sabor Tropical (Latin/Rap)
  4. Lisa Said -  Hard To Brake (Folk/Rock)
  5. Lisa Said - Comes and Goes (Folk/Rock)
  6. Sunshowers Overnight - Medicines and Meditations (Folk/Rock)
  7. Olivia Mancini & the Mates - Easy Way (Pop/Rock)
  8. Rare Essence - Turn It Up (ft DJ Kool) (R&B/GoGo/Hip Hop)
  9. Intro music by Fellowcraft (Hard Rock/Blues)

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Lisa Said

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Lisa Said (pronounced Sa’yeed) combines her Egyptian roots and the music she heard growing up in Tennessee to sing about lost love, nomadic life, and vanishing time soaked in a fifth of bourbon.

These songs were written as far back as 11 years ago, during breaks and in-between days of playing with other bands—garage, rock, powerpop, & art-rock—and represent her more folk & country side. It wasn’t until her last band dissolved that she decided to finally bring these songs out of the darkness. 

Now living on the outskirts of Washington, DC, Lisa recorded these songs with legendary punk producer/engineer Don Zientara at Inner Ear Studio throughout most of 2015. Lisa came into the studio with the intention of finding the sweet spot between early 70s folk-rock and North African percussion. This project was jump-started with the contributions of Andrew Toy, a Washington, DC drummer who can play Middle Eastern percussion, the kind of drummer Lisa had been searching for...for years. From there, fine musicians like Jon Carroll (Starland Vocal Band) and Seth Kauffman (Floating Action) were added to the ensemble, near and far, by the grace of Soundcloud and Dropbox. Then the recordings were brought back home to Inner Ear for the final touches. 

Overall, these recordings took their time through 2015 and part of 2016. The songs saw many faces, shared many Dropbox links. Great talent led to more great talent, as Lisa felt her way through the dark to arrive at a place beyond her wildest imagination.

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No Turn Left Behind (released 8/26/16)



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