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5/29/18 - Special Guest: JDVBBS, The Live-Looping Producer/Rapper/Singer/Songwriter

Thanks to JDVBBS, the talented live-looping producer/rapper/singer/songwriter, who grew up in Reston VA, for hanging out with us in the studio this week! 

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  1. ***Viva la Noche, by Q the Turn Up (Techno, Electric)

  2. Wait & See, by JDVBBS (Pop, R&B)

  3. ***Karnival - Remix, by RDGLDGRN, JDVBBS (Pop, Hip Hop)

  4. ***Private Room (feat. JusPaul), by Footwerk (Hip Hop, Alternative Hip Hop)

  5. ***Alien Funk, by Cosmic Romp (Hip Hop, Funk)

***The first time we've played this artist for you on the show, & a new artist profile added to our DC Artist Database!  There's new artists every week!

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I make Pop/R&B music with hip-hop sensibilities. Imagine Pharrell Williams and Missy Elliot had a baby, Justin Timberlake was his godfather and Kanye West his high school bully.  On stage, I'm a one man band. I recreate my tracks on the fly, live looping bass lines, guitar riffs, beats, grooves and vocal harmonies. It’s production meets performance in a way that’s interactive, improvisational, and impressive AF. Read More




Brian:               On DC Music Rocks, we're shining a spotlight on the great songs, artists, and incredible people behind the DC region's local music scene. J Dubs makes pop R&B music with hip-hop sensibilities. He describes it by saying, "Imagine Nick Jonas and Kehlani had a baby, Drake was his godfather, and Kanye was his high school bully." It's funny how high school bullies can be so influential.

JDVBBS:            You know?

Brian:               It really is. Onstage, he's a one-man band. He's recreating his tracks on the fly, live-looping basslines, guitar riffs, beats, grooves, and vocal harmonies altogether. It's production meets performance in a way that's interactive, it's improvisational, and, of course, it's freaking impressive. I first came across J Dubs when I started the show. God, it's been at least a year and a half or more since I first stumbled across your music. Ever since ... It was ... "Cinderella" was the track that I ...

JDVBBS:            Oh, yeah. Probably.

Brian:               I'm not going to lie, I totally had that one on repeat for at least a couple weeks. I've been a fanboy for a while so it's a treat for me to now have you here with me on the show. Thanks for being here, man.

JDVBBS:            It's good to be here, man. It's good to be here.

Brian:               This is cool. Now, talk about ... If you're a one-man band, then what's it like when you perform? Talk about that.

JDVBBS:            All right, so here's ... I think it's misleading because I have my laptop on stage and a bunch of gear underneath my laptop, so it looks like I'm a DJ. What I'm doing is all the songs or everything that you hear in the song, that you hear of mine, I'm just reproducing on the fly. With a song like "Wait and See," I'll hit a button and that starts the clock, if you will, so you hear the ticking in the background. I'll play the keys and I'll loop them, and then the keys will loop. Then, I'll sing the background harmonies and then those will loop. Then, I'll play the bassline and all the little ... Like the kick and the snare and all that stuff, and get them programmed where I want them, but I play them all live on stage. You're watching me do that. Then, I start the song and then I'll turn certain things on and off.

Brian:               Oh, I see. That's ... I think many people have seen either guitarists or other people with the looping pedals.

JDVBBS:            Yeah, like Ed Sheeran.

Brian:               They ... It's like the looping pedals kind of look they might have seen before but, for you, it's a laptop and more of a DJ look and set-up, but same concept. You're looping and stuff.

JDVBBS:            Yeah.

Brian:               That's cool, man. How did you come ... How did you start doing that?

JDVBBS:            Well, I have been ... I put out my first single probably four years ago. I've been playing and I've been playing with DJs and it's just ... I think it's difficult to organize things with people. I can just leave it at that. It's difficult to organize things [inaudible 00:02:27].

Brian:               Organize things with people. If I do it all myself, I don't have to organize with people. That's fair. Yeah.

JDVBBS:            If I do it all myself, then I don't ... I was paying for recording space and people weren't showing up. I was paying for rehearsal space and people weren't showing up. I was buying pizza for rehearsal ... That's extra pizza for me so I guess it's a win-win, but ... Or ...

Brian:               That was the one you weren't bitter about. You were bitter about all the other ones.

JDVBBS:            That's the one I wasn't bitter about, but the other stuff ... I'd show up to shows and people were like, "Oh, we have a show today?" I'm like, "Yeah. I'm here. You were supposed to be here an hour ago." That was ... That was straw number one. Straw number two was I had a few exec meetings, A&R meetings with a few mid-tier recording labels and they were like, "You sing good and you rap good but everyone sings good and they rap good, but you also wrote these songs? If you can get this musicianship across in your performances, I think they would really, really, really hit." I was like, "Huh. How would I do that?" I started watching a few videos online of people doing them.

JDVBBS:            A buddy of mine from New York, his name is Mike, he also goes by the band Tall Tall Trees. He's a banjo looper.

Brian:               Oh, man.

JDVBBS:            He does all these things I've never seen anybody do on a banjo. He'll take a violin bow and bow on it and put the effects pedals. It just sounds awesome. He'll take a drum stick and he'll beat on it and it sounds dope. I was like ... I hit him up and asked him a few questions, and I watched a few videos and started buying up some gear. Then, last February was my first looping performance. It was a little rough but we've since ... It was in the beta testing and now I think we're in version one, 1.0, at the moment. I bought up some new stuff. Hopefully, version 2.0 will be coming soon.

Brian:               Got it. There it is. Most of that is contingent ... Do you find it's more contingent on the gear or is it more on ... Is it really you and the amount you've practiced or is it the gear or all of the above or ...

JDVBBS:            I think it's probably ... The tools are only as good as the person who is using the tools, so I think there are a few things here and there that make things a little easier but there isn't anything I think I could buy, gear-wise, that would make ... There's still ... It still takes hours and hours of practice because there's so much stuff going on. It's almost like you're playing for four people, five people, six people sometimes, depending on the song.

Brian:               Right.

JDVBBS:            It's a lot going on, but the learning curve is not as steep because all the sounds that I already made in the song itself already exist, so it's not like I have to ... It's not like ... I'm not covering my own song, per se.

Brian:               I see.

JDVBBS:            All the stuff is already there, I just have to play it correctly.

Brian:               Just have to get it timed right and launched right and all that stuff.

JDVBBS:            Yeah. Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Brian:               Now, where does the name come from?

JDVBBS:            J Dubbs is probably 50% what my friends called me in high school, or J Dubb, JK Dubb. I was ... I went to high school in the early 2000s and that was when the J.Lo phase was rampant. You would take the first letter of someone's name and then however you decided to pronounce their last name. It's what you would run with.

Brian:               Got it.

JDVBBS:            In college, people called me Juicy J, which is a rapper in a group called Three 6 Mafia so I couldn't ...

Brian:               Okay, I was going to say. Juicy J, I know that name. All right. Got you.

JDVBBS:            It wasn't something I could by and so that's what I ended up defaulting to, J Dubbs. It was just with a U before I started really taking it seriously, that my mom calls me one day, trying to boot up Netflix on our Xbox, and my Xbox gamer tag had it spelled with a V. It's been that way for as long as I've had an Xbox gamer tag and I was like, "Oh." She heard me gasp on the phone. I was like ... She was like, "What even?" I was like, "I ... It's just a little bit of an epiphany that I had." That's kind of what it's been since 2014, 2013 maybe.

Brian:               Oh. It was your mom booting up Netflix on the game ...

JDVBBS:            On the Xbox, yeah.

Brian:               On the Xbox that gave you your artist name.

JDVBBS:            Yeah.

Brian:               Oh, my God. That's an amazing artist story. I hear so many great ... I love the story behind artist names because sometimes they're so funny, and that one is hilarious. Thanks, mom, for the artist.

JDVBBS:            Yeah. It's a little ridiculous.

Brian:               That's how ... That's ... Oh, god. That's amazing.

JDVBBS:            The girl did the logo and made it ... It seemed like we put so much more thought into it. She sent me maybe three different mock-ups and I was like, "That one. This one works." It looks nice and clean and professional, fits in a lot of places.

Brian:               Now ... If you don't know, when you spell it, It's J-D-V instead of the U, so if you're [crosstalk 00:06:44] J-D-V-B-B-S. That's JDVBBS.

JDVBBS:            Yes. Yes. Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Brian:               There we go. What ... Describe your connection to the DC's ... You're in Arlington now, you mentioned earlier. You moved to Arlington. You've lived all over the place. What's your DC ... What parts of DC are you connected to?

JDVBBS:            I probably connect myself best to Fairfax County because that's where I grew up, that's where I can drive around without my GPS.

Brian:               Got it. I guess that's really a status nowadays, is where can you drive where you know the roads so well that you don't need GPS.

JDVBBS:            That you don't need GPS. Reston, Virginia, for sure.

Brian:               Okay.

JDVBBS:            It's probably what I connect to best. I lived in DC for a little bit. I lived in ...

Brian:               What schools did you go to out there?

JDVBBS:            I went to South Lakes High School and I went to Herndon High School, which is kind of a ...

Brian:               Oh, the rivalry. Okay.

JDVBBS:            Yeah, they're rivals, so I went to ... My older brother went to South Lakes for all four years and my younger brother went to Herndon for all four years. We moved in the middle of my high school tenure and my mom was like, "I'm not driving you to South Lakes every day. We live right down the street from Herndon High School. You're going to finish your senior year."

Brian:               Oh, man, so you moved in your senior year.

JDVBBS:            It was just one year, it was my senior year. We campaigned real heavy for me to keep going to South Lakes. It did not go down that way.

Brian:               Oh, wow. There we go. I love it. Now, what's your earliest memory with music?

JDVBBS:            My earliest memory that is tangible ... My mom used to record these cassette tapes of us just hanging around the house, listening to tunes. Not necessarily recording the tapes off the radio, but it's us listening to the radio. My earliest, I think, most tangible memory is listening to Onyx "Slam," like "[hums 00:08:20] Let the boys be boys." There's a tape somewhere at my house of me, four years old, singing along with that. That song and ... My little brother's name is Chris. I would sing to Kris Kross a lot and the little call and response, so I'd try to get him to say the lyrics with me.

Brian:               Warm it up, Kris. I'm about to do. Warm it up, Kris, just was I was born to do.

JDVBBS:            Yeah, exactly. Warm it up, Kris.

Brian:               Yeah. Oh, I remember.

JDVBBS:            Those are probably the two most tangible, my first, first musical memories.

Brian:               Oh, that's fun. Oh, I love it, man. Now, what about you on the personal side? Outside of music, what kind of hobbies are you in your personal time? What do you do?

JDVBBS:            I am a big NBA fan. I am not ...

Brian:               Well, there's a lot going on with that right now. Or you don't have a stake in it.

JDVBBS:            There's a lot ... I don't have a ... I'm a Chicago Bulls fan, so, no, not really.

Brian:               Oh, I see.

JDVBBS:            We're probably going to be ... I wouldn't say bottom-feeders, but we're going to be looking through the windowpane of the glass to the playoffs. We're not going to be in the back where we can't see it but it's going to be a while until it works out in our favor.

Brian:               Yeah.

JDVBBS:            I think it ... As a product, there's a lot of good players and a lot of people say that a lot of teams are stacked, this, that, and the third, but it's a lot of good talent in the NBA. I think the NBA playoffs were fantastic to watch this year. It sucks that they're going to end in a little bit.

JDVBBS:            I'm also a big tennis fan, and the French Open just started so I spend most of my day doing that.

Brian:               Wow. Do you play these sports, too, or do you just watch them?

JDVBBS:            I ... In high school, I had to make a decision, and I was never really good enough at basketball for me to even ... I probably wouldn't have played Varsity basketball in high school. I got out of football really, really early. I played on the same team, on the same Little League football team, as Eddie Royal, who is a receiver in the NFL, and so nobody else ever got to touch the ball ever. I was like, "Nah, I'm good. I don't need to play that sport anymore." I played one organized season of it and that's ... Both my brothers played in high school and I was like, "Nah, I'm good. I'm straight. If I'm going to have to compete against that guy, it's not going down."

Brian:               Oh, [crosstalk 00:10:07]. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. It's not ... I'm good, but I'm not that good. Okay.

JDVBBS:            I'm not that good.

Brian:               Yeah.

JDVBBS:            Also, I take my Mario Karting very seriously.

Brian:               Oh, stop it. For real?

JDVBBS:            If you're listening and you want smoke, it doesn't matter what ...

Brian:               Can I get in on this?

JDVBBS:            I'm ... GameCube, the double dash, I'm not as good at, but N64, I'm the king. Ask the kids in my dorm, James Madison University. I used to run it.

Brian:               Is it GameCube or is it N64? Oh, my God. I take this challenge. Jeremy, I take this challenge, man, because I used to run it when I was younger, as well, man.

JDVBBS:            All right. Cool. [inaudible 00:10:41] N64 at my house. I know we have a Super Nintendo at my house. I'm not as good at the one in Super Nintendo.

Brian:               This is ... Okay. Let's make it happen. All right. I was going to say, Super Nintendo ...

JDVBBS:            The latest one on the Nintendo Switch, I am very, very good at it.

Brian:               That's amazing. All right, so Mario Kart. Listen. Bring it. Bring it when you see JDVBBS next time.

JDVBBS:            Yes. When you see me in the streets, let's do it.

Brian:               He's game. A good friendly rivalry will be happening, and I'm going to fuel this rivalry because, oh, yeah, it's on. That one and GoldenEye. Those are the two that I can ... I can talk some smack.

JDVBBS:            GoldenEye, I wasn't as ... GoldenEye, I was [neh 00:11:07].

Brian:               Yeah.

JDVBBS:            I could hold my own.

Brian:               Right. Yeah. I got you.

JDVBBS:            I wasn't going to be the first one to die but I wasn't going to be the last one, for sure.

Brian:               There we go. Oh, my God. It's so good. All right, so a little bit of gaming and a little bit of sports going on.

JDVBBS:            Yeah.

Brian:               I love it, man. Now, what about ... What's ... Biggest success moment that comes to mind?

JDVBBS:            Biggest success ... I just finished a tour. I got home in April. It was one of ... I've only been on tour maybe twice, maybe twice, because I don't know if the first one really counts. It was a little bit of a struggle. The biggest success that comes to mind, performance-wise, is probably ... I did a show at Washington University in St. Louis. It was the first time I'd ever been to St. Louis. I didn't get to see enough of it but that's kind of what happens when you're on the road.

Brian:               [crosstalk 00:11:51] on tour.

JDVBBS:            I started playing my first single ever, it's called "War Paint," and I started the ... I started all my sets on tour with that. Right from when the claps started going, all these college kids came and rushed the stage and they're singing the words. I'm like ... It's the first time ... I'd probably done maybe five or six college shows by that point on the tour and it hadn't quite happened yet. It was definitely a win over crowd and, from when the beat dropped, I was like, "Oh, my gosh." I took some time from the loop station and filmed the kids because I was like, "People won't believe me, that this is actually happening. I need to have this memory in my pocket at all times."

Brian:               Yes.

JDVBBS:            That's probably the biggest ... That's the most rockstar I think I've ever felt on stage.

Brian:               That's amazing.

JDVBBS:            There were like ... It was probably 1,000 people at the show. It was crazy.

Brian:               That was in Missouri, [inaudible 00:12:34]?

JDVBBS:            Yeah.

Brian:               God, so a bunch of people you've never seen. You've never been out there.

JDVBBS:            Never seen. Never been out ...

Brian:               They all know your music and they know the words.

JDVBBS:            Yeah. Invited a bunch of them on stage to come perform with me. It was a blast.

Brian:               That's awesome, man. I love that. Now, by the flip moment, then, what's the funniest moment that comes to mind from performing?

JDVBBS:            What's the funniest moment?

Brian:               Yeah, funniest moment.

JDVBBS:            Huh. I was doing a show, and this will probably lead in great with what we're going to play next.

Brian:               Okay.

JDVBBS:            I was doing a show in Richmond with some friends and this band called Red Gold Green. It was the first ... I'd played some shows with them way back in the day but it was the first show as JDVBBS. I did my own original stuff. The show ... It was maybe a Wednesday or a Thursday and it was an earlier show. My DJ, I just ... It was a kid that I knew from Richmond but I had never really, really performed with him, so I gave him a JDVBBS shirt so he could rep the brand.

JDVBBS:            He was DJing before the show starts and the booker for the show ... I went to ... I was supposed to go on at 7:20. 7:35 comes around and people are just really starting to come in. I was like, "Hey, what time am I supposed to be on stage?" He was like, "Oh, no, that's your set. Aren't you on stage right now? That guy has a shirt that says JDVBBS so I figured ..." I didn't even let him finish ... Didn't even let him finish his words. Ran on stage. I was supposed to have 20 minute set. I probably did eight or nine minutes.

Brian:               Ran on stage. Oh, my God.

JDVBBS:            Ran on stage and I was like, "Hey, I'm going to do half of four songs. Please hang out and have a blast." I ripped through my set in eight minutes and I was super-worried, super-frantic. I could see that the guy was going to be mad and he made it seem like he was going to cut the mic but everyone was enjoying themselves and so it was like ... I took it out on a risk. He's like ... After the ... After I got off stage, he's yelling at me in one ear but my merch table was mobbed and I'm like, "This was the right choice, man. This is crazy." It's always funny that ... Normally, those things are just a mess and it's always a cluster F, if you will. I would rather ... It normally doesn't work out where it's something you can laugh about later, but it was really, really funny, I think, at the moment.

Brian:               Yeah. Now, my favorite question to ask, and I always ask it, is if you could offer one piece of advice, what would it be?

JDVBBS:            If I could offer one piece of advice, it would be to write something hilarious on your tech rider.

Brian:               What does that mean?

JDVBBS:            Like, super detailed and specific. A tech rider is if you go and play a venue, they're like, "Hey, what are your sound needs?"

Brian:               Okay.

JDVBBS:            I always give them a stage plot. I'm like, "Hey, I need these two chords to go into my system and that's it," and I have ... I [crosstalk 00:15:06] my own mics and everything.

Brian:               You have the simplest plot, yeah, yeah, yeah.

JDVBBS:            I always am like ... I always want to know what wireless stuff they have, what kind of speakers they have, and what I write on mine is, "I want to ... Also, if you happen to have a green room," and most people don't do this. One ... The Howard Theater has done it for me. No one else has does this. I write, "I need strawberry cheesecake Ben & Jerry's ice cream in my green room," because, if it happens, then you know they read your whole tech rider and everything is going to sound the way that you think it's going to be sound.

Brian:               Yeah.

JDVBBS:            But, if it doesn't happen, then you never know what you're going to get into.

Brian:               Yeah, this is true. [crosstalk 00:15:40].

JDVBBS:            For real. That's the ... It seems like a little bit of a snooty advice but stay true to it because that's how you know ...

Brian:               That's how you know whether they read it or not.

JDVBBS:            That's how you know if the promoter is going to give you the cash on the spot or a check or if they're doing to duck you. Every single thing that's going to go wrong, you can tell by how in depth they read your tech rider before you got there.

Brian:               There you go. How prepared they are. Now, one more time for those folks who want to find and follow you and what you're doing, where do they go?

JDVBBS:            Instagram, I think, is probably where I'm most active right now. I've been doing ... I've been trying to get the angles right on my selfies and things like that. Yeah, @JDVBBS everywhere. Facebook, Instagram, Twitter. I just deleted SnapChat because I think I waste my time on it.

Brian:               Fair. Yeah.

JDVBBS:  , If you just type in J-D-V-B-B-S, you will probably find me.

Brian:               It's all JDVBBS.

5/30/17 - Special Guest: Billy Winn

Thanks Billy Winn for joining us on this week's episode!  #Winn #BillyWinn #allidoiswinnwinnwinn

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  1. I've Never Met a Stranger by The Bumper Jacksons (Country/Americana)
  2. Crossfire by Billy Winn (Pop/EDM)
  3. Real One by Jus Paul & Kid Cannibal (Funk/R&B)
  4. Never Been by Mista Fingaz (R&B)
  5. You're On My Time Now by The Fringe Benefits (Pop/Hard Rock)
  6. Wanna Be With You by Jus Paul & Kid Cannibal (Funk/R&B)


Fort Knox Five - Give it a minute (2 song EP)
Jen Miller - Fire (single)
Carolyn Malachi - Summertime (single)
Black Alley - Complicated (single)
The Bumper Jacksons - I've Never Met a Stranger (full album)
Monday Mistress - Rocket (video) --


These are just the few we mentioned on the show, there's some every night, visit our Local Music Calendar to browse them all! 

Fri June 2
Aaron Tinjum & The Tangents @ Jammin Java in Vienna, VA
Vim & Vigor @ The Midlands in DC

Sat-Sun June 3-4
Andrew Tufano, Sub-Radio, His Dream of Lions @ Summerfest in DC
Throwing Plates, Jason Masi, Nelly’s Echo, The VA Southpaws @ Herndon Festival in Herndon, VA

Sun June 4
Mark G. Meadows @ The Hamilton in DC

Thurs June 8
My French Roommate @ DC9 in DC
SwampCandy @ The Hamilton in DC

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Billy Winn is a Billboard-charting singer, songwriter, recording artist, and performer who has captivated audiences with his energetic dance shows and powerhouse talent. Since 2013, Billy has released a number of acclaimed singles, including the song “Future X Boyfriend”—which reached the top 20 on the Billboard Dance chart—and has shared the stage with the likes of Emeli Sande’, Cher Lloyd, Blake Lewis, and Icona Pop. His music ranges from high energy dance records, to slick and sexy urban pop and emotionally charged EDM. After releasing the critically acclaimed single “Crossfire” in 2016, Billy has returned with a new sound and all new style—ready to expand his reach even further. He describes himself as “a pop artist making electro/pop music with a sexy urban edge,” noting artists such as Prince, Aaliyah, and Michael and Janet Jackson as some of his biggest influences.


Snapchat: IamBillyWin


Brian:     On DC Music Rocks, we're shining a spotlight on the great songs and incredible people behind the DC region's music scene. So, now, let's get to know this incredible guy right here. My guest today, Billy Winn, is a Billboard-charting singer, song writer, recording artist, and performer, which captivates on stage and brings energetic dance shows to the stage. Since 2013, Billy has released a number of acclaim singles including the song Future X Boyfriend, which reached the top 20 on the Billboard Dance Chart. His music ranges from high-energy dance records to slick and sexy urban pop and emotionally-charged EDM. He describes himself as a pop artist making electro-pop music with a sexy ... And if you've seen the photos, it's a very sexy urban edge to this guy.

     So, I came across Billy ... Actually, it was last year. We both played the Taste of DC, I believe. That's where I saw your name in there and I was going through checking out all the artists. We were both on stage and different stages or whatever and I saw you on there and it was like, "Wow. This Billy Winn guy is awesome." So, I reached out to him and he's got me back to me, and now it is such a treat to actually have you here to do this.

Billy Winn:     Thank you so much for having me, and it's my pleasure.

Brian:     Thanks for being here, dude.

Billy Winn:     Trust me.

Brian:     This is awesome. So, anyway, let's get to know you here. So, now, you talked a little bit earlier, but share it again. You got started in school. How did music come into your life?

Billy Winn:     It kind of happened sort of by accident. I was a theater kid. I started performing when I was around six years old. At the time I was more interested in just being a performer, acting and dancing, and singing kind of was a prerequisite for that. It wasn't until I was probably 10 where I started to take music seriously and I wanted to be a recording artist. It was from my love of music videos.

Brian:     Music videos?

Billy Winn:     Yeah.

Brian:     So, we're talking, like MTV music videos?

Billy Winn:     MTV videos, like TRL and stuff like that. It made me want to ... I was like, "I can do this."

Brian:     It turns out you can. Look at you go.

Billy Winn:     I was already like on the trajectory. I just didn't realize it, but once I made the decision to focus more so on music, I just incorporated everything else, the acting and the dancing and all that good stuff.

Brian:     Got it. Now, there's a lot ... I mean, you talked about high-energy dance shows and stuff. When people see you live, describe what a live Billy Winn show is like. Is there dancers, is it dancing, is it singing, is it ... ?

Billy Winn:     When I think about performing for me, I want to give a full show, like you would see at a circus, like Circus Olay, something like that. So, it's always like performance art to a certain degree. It's going to be dancing, flipping. If you make it to the Capital Pride show, there's going to be some smoke machines and some confetti and lot of fun stuff.

Brian:     Oh hell yeah.

Billy Winn:     It's going to be [crosstalk 00:03:00] show.

Brian:     All right. So, it's a heck of a show. What about you? So, there's this ... Before I jump to that, I also want to touch on ... So, singer and song writer. Talk about your music, because sometimes in the world of pop music and the music today, sometimes you just sing or you song write or little bit of both. How does music come together for you when we hear your stuff on the radio?

Billy Winn:     Singing is just a natural gift just like every other facet of performing that I have dancing and acting. I can sing. I just focused on singing to become better at it and to make it the focal point because I really, really love music. But like I said, I was 10 when I decided I want to be a recording artist. I have a weird process when I think and I was like, "Okay, well, what does a singer need? A singer needs songs." I didn't know any song writers at the time so I decided that, "Okay, well, I can write my own songs," like Immediately following [inaudible 00:03:58] I didn't want to be a recording artist, I started writing my own songs.

Brian:     Got it. Now is it, do you use a keyboard or is it you and a guitar?

Billy Winn:     It's so many different ways at this point. When I was ... The one thing that I never really did starting out was play instruments.

Brian:     Got it. Okay.

Billy Winn:     So, I would always write a cappella, but what I didn't realize I was doing was actually still writing chords and writing melodies and things like that. Nowadays, I'd use a keyboard and I really want to start using a guitar more. I don't know why I'm afraid to, but there's something about it that intimidates me, but I really want to start using the guitar more.

Brian:     I hope you do. That will be a wild addition to your set when all of a sudden you pull out a guitar and sit down.

Billy Winn:     I really will like to do that.

Brian:     [crosstalk 00:04:41].

Billy Winn:     I want that shock.

Brian:     You told us all here. So, we hope that ... I hope I get to see that.

Billy Winn:     I know. I said it live on the air.

Brian:     I want a YouTube video. You said it live on the air. Once you say it, it's a thing. Now, so, on the personal side, then outside of the music thing, what do you do in your free time? What's life like for you?

Billy Winn:     I am probably the most boring person you could ever meet outside of music.

Brian:     Oh stop it.

Billy Winn:     I travel a lot, like I have a really extensive social life and that part of me is fun, but if I'm home, like before I got here. I was watching cartoons on Hulu like all day.

Brian:     Nice.

Billy Winn:     That's what I'd do. Me and my dogs, we just chill out and we watch TV.

Brian:     What kind of dogs?

Billy Winn:     I have a pug. He's all black.

Brian:     Got it.

Billy Winn:     I have a Maltese Shih Tzu mix. He kind of looks like [carladeville 00:05:35].

Brian:     Wow. Okay. Those two together, all right. "So, I got the dogs, do some marathon, TV watching."

Billy Winn:     Mostly cartoons.

Brian:     Nice.

Billy Winn:     I'm a comic book geek, so I watch Justice League and X-Men and all that stuff.

Brian:     Oh excellent.

Billy Winn:     If you didn't know, they're on Hulu and Netflix, so I binge all the time.

Brian:     Nice. Okay. So, we got that. This is a fun question that I love to ask, but that's ... Talk about your ... Tell me a story about a time you tried and failed.

Billy Winn:     Ooh, that's a good one. So, one of the reasons why I'm so happy to do this interview is to talk about a situation that sort of happened not too long ago. A lot of people ask me ... I get a lot of fan questions about where my album is, if I've ever done an album. The answer to that question is I did actually record an album. Back in 2013, I recorded an album at the time I was signed to an indie label that was signed to Universal.

Brian:     Oh okay.

Billy Winn:     My producer and I at the time, [rainer 00:06:50] hot net of 180 Music, we sat down and we did like 25 tracks. We were spending like ...

Brian:     25?

Billy Winn:     Yeah.

Brian:     Wow.

Billy Winn:     It was like 18-hour days in the studio, mixing and mastering and recording. I actually did an album. It ended up being like 13 tracks.

Brian:     Okay.

Billy Winn:     At the time that the album was being finished, the indie label lost their funding and everything just sort of fell apart. So, I did an album. Since that time, parts of it have sort of been ... It's been picked apart for various reasons, other record deals and singles that I've put out. The biggest failure for me was not getting to present that collection of music the way that it was supposed to be presented. I think I've been sort of on a journey to sort of reconcile that ever since.

Brian:     Wow. That must've been so frustrating, man.

Billy Winn:     Frustrating is the best way to put it. It was devastating to a degree, but it was more frustrating than anything, because you ... I felt like I was onto something that was really special and I didn't get to share it with the world the way that I intended to.

Brian:     Got it. It just occurred to me, earlier you talked about when the name came together or something, I meant to ask you. So, Billy Winn is your ... That is your real name or that is the stage name?

Billy Winn:     Technically, I mean, it's sort of my real name, but it's a stage name. I can't sign checks as Billy Winn.

Brian:     Got it. Do you hear it? You heard it here first, he can't sign checks as Billy Winn. There you go.

Billy Winn:     If they come looking for me, they're not going to look for Billy Winn.

Brian:     Where did the artist name came from then?

Billy Winn:     I wanted a name that sounded like, "Oh Hollywood," but I also didn't want a name that was so unfamiliar that I felt like people were calling to someone else. So, my first real name is William.

Brian:     Okay.

Billy Winn:     You get that much, just the first name.

Brian:     Okay, yeah, we're with you.

Billy Winn:     But my whole life, everybody just call me Billy, "Billy, Billy, Billy." Even when I went to elementary school, I freaked out on a teacher because she started calling me William and I had no idea who she was talking to.

Brian:     Wow.

Billy Winn:     Nobody had ever explained to me that Billy's a nickname. So, Winn is my mother's maiden name.

Brian:     Got it.

Billy Winn:     And so I said, "You know, Billy Winn sounds like, "Oh Hollywood, James Dean, Marilyn Monroe, Billy Winn."

Brian:     That's cool. Now, when you hear it ... When I hear your name, sometimes that good rap song (singing). I feel like all of a sudden that's like an anthem or something, is it?

Billy Winn:     I never actually ...

Brian:     I'm teasing you.

Billy Winn:     I know. I never thought about it that way, but now the next time I hear that song ...

Brian:     I changed it for you forever?

Billy Winn:     Yeah.

Brian:     I'm honored to have done that for you, sir, because you changed it for me forever. It's like, "Yeah, he's got it."

Billy Winn:     Well, I appreciate it.

Brian:     "It's like his life story in a song." I love it. That's cool. All right. Now, what's something in your music collection that might surprise us?

Billy Winn:     I listen to like everything. I know some people ... I know a lot of people probably hear my songs ... And it happens. They get their impression of a person from their music. But me, I listen to everything. My music taste is very broad. So, I think if I were to just choose something, the thing that probably would surprise most people is I listen to a lot of opera.

Brian:     Really?

Billy Winn:     Yeah.

Brian:     Okay.

Billy Winn:     I have a favorite opera.

Brian:     Which is?

Billy Winn:     The Magic Flute.

Brian:     Wow, okay. Well, you listening out there, check out The Magic Flute. Next time you see Billy, have him sing some for you. You're going to sing a little bit, huh?

Billy Winn:     Well, I don't know about that, but ...

Brian:     Oh okay.

Billy Winn:     ... I'll play my favorite [inaudible 00:10:48] but I don't think I'm going to ... I don't think I'm that good.

Brian:     I got one more question for you. It's my favorite one ask every episode and that's, if you could offer one piece of advice, what would it be?

Billy Winn:     Stay true to your artistry, whatever that is. I think that, especially being an indie artist and meeting a lot of artists in the DC metro area, the one thing that I can say for sure is that everyone that I've met here, they're very true to what it is that they do as artists. It isn't necessarily about trying to fit into a particular market, which I think is one of the beauties of the DC music scene. It can sort of be a double-edged sword depending on where you come from in terms of music and your goals, but I think just staying true to yourself as an artist and what it is that you want to do and present to the world is the most important thing.

Brian:     I like that and that's challenging in today's day and age, man. People tell you all kinds of things that contradict it. So, be true. That's so true.

Billy Winn:     Trust what you have. I still hear some strange things as to why people won't play records or book shows. I'm always like, "What are you talking about?" It happens.

Brian:     All right. Stay true. I dig it. Now I have folks who want to find out more about you or follow you, where do they go?

Billy Winn:     I'm all over social media, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, SoundCloud. If you search Billy Winn Music, it's B-I-L-L-Y W-I-N-N Music. That would be my Facebook and my Instagram.

Brian:     Got it.

Billy Winn:     Twitter is just Billy Winn ... @billywinn on Twitter.

Brian:     Got it.

Billy Winn:     You can search Billy Winn Music pretty much on YouTube and SoundCloud and have my stuff.