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12/05/17 - Special Guest: Mark Reiter; of Daycare Swindlers, Bias Studios, & Furnace Record Pressing

Thanks to Mark Reiter, of Bias Studios, Furnace Record Pressing, and Daycare Swindler's drummer, for hanging out with us in the studio this week!

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  1. Beloved, by Touch the Buffalo (Rock, Grunge)
  2. Darkness, by Daycare Swindlers (Hard Rock)
  3. The Same, by Cabin Creek (Folk, Bluegrass)
  4. Plenty of Blues, by The Roustabouts (Blues, Blues-Rock)
  5. Appalachian Witch, by Gallows Bound (Bluegrass, Punk)
  6. Slow Down, Jerusalem, by The Duskwhales (Indie, Retro Rock)

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Dec 8 Fri
Black Dog Prowl @ Villian & Saint in Bethesda, MD
Bencoolen @ Lost Rhino in Ashburn, VA
Soldiers of Suburbia & A Shrewdness of Apes @ O’Shaughnessy’s Pub in Alexandria, VA

Dec 9 Sat
Vim & Vigor @ Upshur St Art & Craft Fair in Petworth (in NW DC)
Chris Timbers @ Biergarten in Mclean, VA
Rare Essence @ AQUA near Brentwood/Ivy City (in NE DC)

Dec 10 Sun
Uptown Boys Choir @ Songbyrd Music House in Admo (in NW DC)

Dec 12 Tues
Cinema Hearts @ Black Cat on 14th St (in NW DC)

Dec 13 Wed
Maryjo Mattea @ Ugly Sweater Holiday Party @ Roofers Union in Admo (in NW DC)


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Mark Reiter, of Daycare Swindlers, Bias Studios, & Furnace MFG



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Mark Reiter is a mixer, record producer and audio engineer. He is also a drummer and plays in the rock group Daycare Swindlers. His ADHD prevents him from enjoying fishing but he can tap his foot in time for prolonged periods. After two or three cups of strong black coffee he has been called “irritating” and “intolerable.” He enjoys recording analog and has worked with many local and national acts which do not include Rush, Genesis, Peter Frampton or anyone related to Frank Zappa. His mixes frequently invoke the feeling of a feudal lord surveying his lands atop a hill during a misty summer dawn. His production style is highly collaborative but he is woefully illiterate across a wide spectrum of Asian tone languages and dialects. While he is harshly criticized for his inability to perform on-the-spot conversions rates of pre-Hellenic currencies into modern legal tender, he can “use the hell” out of a compressor and has had many experiences involving microphones. He was drawn to engineering by “all the lights and buttons” and secretly enjoys a Teutonic feeling of power and dominion when recording. He understands ProTools but established a near-legendary ability for being able to fatten snare drum tones at the DOS prompt. His interests include werewolves, Vikings, dinosaurs, comic books and a wide spectrum of sundry passions that adults with fully-formed central nervous systems eschewed long ago in pursuit of economic security and furthering their respective bloodlines. He will/will not accept tattoos, Star Wars figures and/or heartfelt platitudes as payment for recording services. He is anecdotally credited as being the first audio engineer to say “What the hell is wrong with this thing?” and “I know someone who can fix this.” He works at Bias Studios just outside Washington, DC, is one-third of the Castathetic Podcast team and is the steely-eyed, handsome creator of the BitCoin.

Some of Mark's credits:

  • Craig Enger
  • Weird Wolf
  • Risk Ray
  • Collider
  • Ruin By Design
  • Wildlove
  • Fire Street
  • Charles Barrett/Direct Connection
  • Rodent Popsicle Records
  • XK Scenario
  • The Good Fight
  • Walkabout
  • Japan in the 80's
  • The Walkabouts
  • Lions in the Grass
  • Supreme Commander
  • Two Man Advantage
  • Gallows Bound
  • Walk the Plank
  • Daycare Swindlers
  • The Pietasters
  • The Idle Gossip
  • Max Levine Ensemble
  • Save the Arcadian
  • Poorboy
  • Charlie Bear Quartet
  • Say-10 Records
  • No Less Records
  • Becca Levy - Drums
  • The House, The Old - Drums
  • Bob Kelley - Drums
  • The Overprivileged
  • VMS Records
  • Brother Bill
  • Castathetic Podcast
  • Michelle McTierney
  • Beatville/VileBeat Records
  • Hudson Falcons
  • Go-Kart Records
  • Mark Linskey
  • The AKs
  • Senores Jovenes
  • Lucky So Far
  • Iron Lung Remedy
  • Oasis CD Duplication
  • No Cash
  • Jose Maria
  • Shwa
  • The Twats
  • Rocket City Riot
  • Nice Guy Records
  • Yum
  • Drytown
  • The Duskwhales
  • Last Armistice
  • Static Scene
  • Cabin Creek
  • Karla and the Brotherhood
  • Alex Rhodes - Drums
  • Julianna McDowell - Drums
  • Azura
  • Aerial Escape
  • Sam Sade and Alpha Krav Maga
  • Vim and Vigor - Mastering
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Brian:     On DC Music Rocks, we're shining a spotlight on the great songs, artists and incredible people behind the DC region's local music scene. Mark Reiter is a mixer, record producer and audio engineer along with an operations manager and a drummer. He works at Bias Studios just outside Washington DC, and is one third of the Castathetic podcast team. He's also the drummer in the rock group Daycare Swindlers, and he enjoys recording analog and has worked with many local and national acts. I first came across Mark's name when I was talking with the ... not the Daycare Swindlers, the Duskwhales when they were they were on the show. They spoke so highly of you, man. Then, I started looking into all the cool things you're doing and was just was blown away. Thank you for now coming and being here with me. This is awesome.

Mark Reiter:     Thank you for having me.

Brian:     Now, talk about ... Quickly go over the things that you said you're involved in, because I just brought up a few of them there. List them out for us so that they know.

Mark Reiter:     Yeah, the engineering and producing stuff that I'm doing out of Bias.

Brian:     Where is Bias located?

Mark Reiter:     Bias is in Springfield. Did you know that?

Brian:     Okay.

Mark Reiter:     I'm technically a freelancer, but they let me in the door and you know.

Brian:     Got it.

Mark Reiter:     They give me some assignments from time to time. Just the audio and production work. Then, the operations management stuff at Furnace and helping ... Basically what I do is I run the production side of it and oversee a bunch of really hard working people who put records and press records and get records out the door in time and learn the art and craft of record pressing. Then, I also get to be in the Daycare Swindlers, which is ... we're in the our 20th year.

Brian:     Holy smokes. 20 years.

Mark Reiter:     Yeah, a lot of smokes. Yeah, it's crazy.

Brian:     A lot of smokes. Oh, man. There's a great Daycare Swindlers history if they want to look into that. That's for sure.

Mark Reiter:     Yeah. Don't look too closely.

Brian:     That's there. Then, I brought up Castathetic podcast. That is something you do or ...

Mark Reiter:     That is the thing that Ken Barnum who also works at Bias and a crazy guy named Keaton Beus, we do this together, and every few weeks we do something kind of similar to this. We have bands come to Bias, they play live. Keaton will interview them. Then, we do a mix and put it out, and it's a good way for bands to accomplish. Kind of the same thing that you're doing.

Brian:     That's amazing.

Mark Reiter:     Get the word out there.

Brian:     If they want to check out the Castathetic podcast, if they're listening, where would they go to find that?

Mark Reiter:     The best way to get it, you can go to It's there. I think we're ... I'm embarrassed to say that I don't really handle any of the technical side of it. [crosstalk 00:02:57] recording.

Brian:     No. There's no worries.

Mark Reiter:     Yeah, is the best way to do it. You can also find it on my website. There's a link to it, which is Shameless plug.

Brian:     Shameless plug Mark Reiter music. That's Reiter, is R-E-I-T-E-R.

Mark Reiter:     Yup.

Brian:     Got it. Now, what ... Tell me the story behind the Daycare Swindlers name.

Mark Reiter:     No one ever asks this question.

Brian:     No? Well, I'm glad that I could be the first.

Mark Reiter:     All right.

Brian:     Tell us.

Mark Reiter:     I'll try to do it really quickly. We started in the late '90s. There was another wave of ska revolution going on, and DC was a hotbed for that stuff. We sort of did our own version of ska music, which is a poor version of it with electric guitars and no horns and sort Operation Ivy thing. Right? There's a band called Dance Hall Crashers, and we really liked the way that that name sounded. It's got a lot of syllables and it's kind of rhymey. We did that horrible thing that all bands do, which is to sit around in the basement and drink a lot of beer and come up with a name. I'm looking at the Dungeons and Dragons monster manual. We could be Gelatinous Cube. No, we can't be Gelatinous Cube. Our guitar player Mark O'Connor came up with Daycare Swindlers and it stuck, and we get asked about the name a lot.

      I think it's a great name, but it does come ... People sort of raise their eyebrows sometimes. We got asked in an interview once if we had named ourselves after the Ronald Reagan speech about the daycare swindlers from Chicago who were hustling the government for funding to run daycare centers out of their homes.

Brian:     That's not a good association.

Mark Reiter:     That's where we got the name from.

Brian:     There it is. Can you confirm that is in fact where that came from or no-

Mark Reiter:     It didn't come from the monster manual.

Brian:     ... that came from the dictionary and the monster manual and all of that stuff.

Mark Reiter:     Yeah.

Brian:     Okay. All this stuff. Wow. Cool history. I love that. All right. Now, you've been in DC for ... what's your connection to the DC region? For a while, immigrated here, moved here.

Mark Reiter:     Yeah. I was born in central New York in Binghamton, and lived in Buffalo for my childhood. My dad is a government guy, was a government guy. He got an opportunity and came down here. I did high school down here and ...

Brian:     When you say down here, what part of are you talking about?

Mark Reiter:     The beautiful Dumfries triangle Quantico area.

Brian:     Excellent. Okay.

Mark Reiter:     Home to your [inaudible 00:05:33] Mills. It was in high school, I was always sort of a music nerd. I apologize. I'm going to say you know. It's a verbal crutch. I can't get rid of it today.

Brian:     We're not listening. Just tell us. It's okay, man.

Mark Reiter:     I sort of fell in love with the storied musical past of DC, especially the discord, the hard core, punk rock thing. That was really my point of entry into music, and it's still not totally even though the Daycare Swindlers were originally a punk band. Being part of that scene is super exciting to me.

Brian:     Wow. Now, what about ... You on the personal side. Now, outside of all this, this music stuff, and you told us all the jobs and the things you're involved in. In your free time, what do you do, Mark?

Mark Reiter:     I got married last year.

Brian:     Congratulations.

Mark Reiter:     Thanks, man. Thank you.

Brian:     Yeah.

Mark Reiter:     My wife and I, we have no human children, but we have two furry children.

Brian:     Oh, furry children.

Mark Reiter:     Two Siberian Huskies. [crosstalk 00:06:40].

Brian:     Wow.

Mark Reiter:     We're both big Star Wars nerds. My wife is training to be an MMA fighter.

Brian:     Really?

Mark Reiter:     Yeah. Which is awesome and also-

Brian:     Are you training with her? Have you [crosstalk 00:06:51].

Mark Reiter:     I am a test dummy for Jujutsu moves. Every few days I get to find out what she learned.

Brian:     She kicks your butt.

Mark Reiter:     Yeah. I can't breathe, and the room goes gray, and she's proud and I'm terrified.

Brian:     That's fantastic. Your home life just sound so fantastic, man. Two fur babies and some MMA fights when you're home.

Mark Reiter:     Yeah. I'm a very grateful dude.

Brian:     That's awesome, man. I love it. Do you guys ... are you into ... She does that. What do you do with some of your free time, the little that you have? It's not just Star Wars.

Mark Reiter:     Well, I don't know. I'm also an avid reader. Yeah, it's weird. The past couple of years, I've not had a lot of free time. The time that we do get to spend not working and not doing the music is kind of veg out time. My wife and I are very protective of those handful of moments when, you know.

Brian:     Yeah.

Mark Reiter:     Because I really am working two gigs and sometimes three. Again, I'm grateful for that work. I would rather be that busy than have none of these things coming across the plate.

Brian:     Yeah. Got it, man.

Mark Reiter:     It seems mundane, but it's actually kind of magical to just be able to spend a night with my wife and a [sahee ball 00:08:27] and eight episodes of Stranger Things.

Brian:     Nice. Oh god, so good. Absolutely. I totally get it, man. One of my favorite questions to ask on the show is, if you could offer one piece of advice, what would it be?

Mark Reiter:     I think in this gig, in the music world, being aware of your motives and trying to figure why you're doing something. Why is this important to you? Is it important to you because it's placating some kind of deep need that your ego has presented to you? I find in my own life that when I've operated that way, I've caused problems for myself and for other people. I think that part of this especially being in a band, and the Daycare Swindlers were fairly successful for a good number of years, and you can lose yourself a little bit in that and the tension that comes along with it. You can tend to feed that inner self and in a kind of negative and dangerous way.

     I've come to a place in my life where I realize that everything that I'm a part of that's cool is because I'm part of a bigger whole. You know, sort of the notion that together we are what we can't be alone. When I find myself operating from that standpoint, whether it's at Furnace or at Bias, in the band, then really cool things begin to happen not to me, but to us. That's the kind of energy that I want to be a part of. It takes some discipline to keep the ego and the things that it wants at bay. I find when that's happening, that's when the really cool stuff begins to flow.

Brian:     That's amazing, man. Such good words. A part of something bigger. I love it. Now, you brought up a lot of things. If people want to find out more about what you brought up, so there's Furnace, and there's Daycare Swindlers, and there's ...

Mark Reiter:     Bias.

Brian:     Bias Studios. Where do they go to find those things?

Mark Reiter:     The internet.

Brian:     They all have websites.

Mark Reiter:     Yeah., the S's are together.

Brian:     That's B-I-A-S Studios.

Mark Reiter:     Exactly.

Brian:     Okay.

Mark Reiter:     You can find Furnace at furnacemfg, that's Mary, Frank, George, dot com.

Brian:     Got it.

Mark Reiter:     Then, you can find me at, and the Daycare Swindlers are Daycare-Swindlers.

Brian:     Daycare-Swindlers.

Mark Reiter:     Dot com.

Brian:     Got it.

Mark Reiter:     We're on Bandcamp at Facebook and Instagram and Twitter.

Brian:     All those places.   

9/19/17 - Special Guest: The Duskwhales

Thanks to Seth, Brian, & Chris, The Duskwhales, for coming by the studio this week!

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  1. Gotta Have Your Love, by Area-301 (Hip Hop, R&B)
  2. In the Year of Jubilee, by The Duskwhales (Indie, Pop Rock)
  3. Birds and Bees, by Milo in the Doldrums (Indie/Indie Rock)
  4. Coldest Summer Nights, by Alecia Renece (R&B, Soul)
  5. Bicycle Seat, by Daycare Swindlers (Hard Rock)
  6. Washing My Hands, by Rocknoceros (Pop/Kiddie Pop)

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Staunton - Sunrise (Single)
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Hayley Fahey - Fire
Elena & Los Fulanos - PONLE FIN (with English subtitles hit the CC)


Fri Sep 22
Swampcandy @ The Hamilton near MetroCenter in NW DC
Rocknoceros @ Jammin Java in Vienna, VA

Fri-Sat Sep 23
Surprise Attack, Moogatu, Nappy Riddem @ Hometown Get Down in Clarksville, MD

Sat Sep 23
Matt Tarka, Tomato Dodgers, Leo & Cygnus @ Mainstreet Music Fest in Ellicott City, MD
A Shrewdness Of Apes @ Autumn Music Fest in Alexandria, VA
Hayley Fahey, Fellowcraft @ Clarendon Day in Clarendon in Arlington, VA
See-I @ Oyster Fest at The Salt Line in SE DC

Sun Sep 24
Rare Essence @ U Street Music Hall on U St, in NW DC

Tues Sep 26
Caz Gardiner @ Black Cat by 14th & U St in NW DC
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The Duskwhales



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The Duskwhales - The Duskwhales are a three-piece indie rock band formed in Manassas, Virginia in 2010.  Their sound is reminiscent of 60's groups such as The Beatles and The Doors through prominent use of keyboards and memorable vocal harmonies. While incorporating the best elements of their psychedelic roots, the young trio creates a sophisticated style of their own in both studio and live settings. They have shared the stage with national acts Car Seat Headrest, Diane Coffee, Little Green Cars, and Frankie Cosmos, as well as performed to packed audiences across the East Coast. The Duskwhales are currently touring in support of their latest album Sorrowful Mysteries. 

When The Duskwhales are not touring in support of their own music, they can be seen performing a variety of oldies and classic rock covers at local venues and events. Their cover repertoire includes hits songs from The Beatles, The Beach Boys, Elvis, The Cure, Tears for Fears, MGMT, and many more! They have performed at a number of notable events such as The National Cherry Blossom Festival, Herndon Festival, World Police & Fire Games, Thomas Jefferson Poplar Wine Festival, and Arlington County Fair. The band has also provided live entertainment for private events including parties, dances, and weddings.

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The Duskwhales DC Music Rocks


Brian (DCMR):    On DC Music Rocks, we're shining the spotlight on the great songs and incredible people behind the DC region's local music scene. The Duskwhales are a three-piece indie rock band formed in Manassas, Virginia in 2010. Through prominent use of keyboards and memorable vocal harmonies, and some sweet vocal harmonies by the way, their sound is reminiscent of the '60s groups, such as The Beatles and The Doors. While incorporating the best elements of their psychedelic roots, the young trio creates a sophisticated style of their own and are currently touring in support of their latest album, which you just heard a track off of, The Sorrowful Mysteries. These are the guys. Guys, thanks for being here.

Chris:     Thanks for having us.

Seth:     Thank you.

Brian (DCMR):    And now, since they're listening to you, introduce yourselves and what you play in the band.

Seth:     I'm Seth. I play guitar and I sing.

Brian:     Well, Brian, I am Brian, and I play keyboards.

Brian (DCMR):    Another Brian. I love it. All right.

Chris:     Too many Brians. I'm Chris. I play the drums.

Brian (DCMR):    And Chris on drums. So there's only three of you that made all that sound we just heard?

Seth:     Yes.

Chris:     Hard to know.

Seth:     There's ghosts in the machine.

Brian:     I think it was just us.

Brian (DCMR):    Excellent.

Seth:     Really good producer.

Brian (DCMR):    I was, yeah.

Brian:     Yeah.

Brian (DCMR):    You guys are awesome. So talk about ... First, I want to know the name. The Duskwhales. Where does that name come from?

Seth:     Our parents came up with it.

Chris:     That's not even true.

Brian (DCMR):    Oh stop it. For real.

Brian:     They definitely helped.

Brian (DCMR):    How did that happen?

Brian:     Well, we were-

Seth:     We just have good parents.

Brian:     Yeah, we got good parents. We were very, very young. We started the band in early high school. Seth wasn't even in high school.

Seth:     Yeah.

Chris:     Seth wasn't even born, actually.

Brian:     Yeah, it was kind of just a goofy name that we liked and our parents liked.

Seth:     They had to name me first because I wasn't born yet. Then we named the band. That's how it goes.

Chris:     Just put the words together and thought it sounded funny, and here we are.

Brian (DCMR):    Wow, so Dusk and Whales just came together, and then it became The Duskwhales.

Brian:     Yup.

Brian (DCMR):    And how long has that ... It's been ... You guys have been doing this for a few years, then.

Chris:     Yeah.

Brian (DCMR):    And it's always been The Duskwhales? That was it?

Seth:     Yeah.

Brian:     Almost eight years now.

Brian (DCMR):    That's amazing. And talk about ... Now, how did the band come together? Did you know each other? What was the ... How did it start?

Seth:     I knew Chris when I was really young, and then I met Brian when I was ...

Brian:     Pretty young as well.

Seth:     In, like, seventh grade.

Chris:     Seth and I played soccer together, so we'd been tripping over each other for many years.

Seth:     Yeah, now we just do it in music.

Chris:     Yeah. We were in high school and it was a very small high school, so everybody knew each other, so we kind of gravitated towards each other and then just started playing music together.

Brian (DCMR):    So in high school you started playing music together?

Chris:     Yeah, in high school.

Seth:     Well, I guess you were in high school. I wasn't.

Chris:     Junior high.

Brian (DCMR):    Fair.

Seth:     Junior high.

Chris:     The same building, though.

Brian (DCMR):    The baby. Yep, all right. And was it like talent shows or you were all in band or after, it was purely after school?

Chris:     [inaudible 00:02:42] music, so ...

Brian:     Our first show was a sweet 16 party.

Seth:     Yeah.

Brian:     For one of our classmates. One of your classmates.

Chris:     Yep.

Brian:     And then ...

Brian (DCMR):    You said "you" pointing to ...

Seth:     Chris.

Brian (DCMR):    Chris' classmate.

Brian:     Yeah, sorry. Yeah, because we were all in different grades. Chris was ...

Brian (DCMR):    I see.

Brian:     Yeah, Chris was in the grade above me and then Seth was in the grade below me.

Brian (DCMR):    Got it.

Brian:     Yeah, it's a little confusing there. But then we played ... We would do spiritual teen night. [crosstalk 00:03:12] That was an interesting experience. That was one of our early shows.

Chris:     Yeah. School events and then non-school events. We kind of gravitated away from those and then, yeah, just kind of started doing our own thing and learning a lot of cover songs and writing progressively less worse songs, I think is the important part.

Brian (DCMR):    It's evolved over time.

Chris:     Yeah.

Brian (DCMR):    Where did the harmonies come in. Did you all automatically know how to do that or did you learn over time?

Brian:     Well, we started doing a lot of cover shows, so we started covering a lot of The Beatles. Chris is a huge fan of The Beatles, and so he really likes to get it, dig into all the different harmonies so that we can authentically replicate the harmonies that are in The Beatles' songs. So we've kind of been learning from them.

Chris:     There's a really great YouTube series by this Italian ex-opera singer-producer.

Seth:     I didn't even know you liked The Beatles until now.

Chris:     There's this guy named [Gagliasso Fudu 00:04:01]. I'm probably butchering his name, but he's this crazy opera singer and he has a series where he analyzes all The Beatles' tracks, going through each of the individual harmonies. The stuff that he uncovers is pretty mind-boggling. You listen through She Loves You and all that.

Brian (DCMR):    Wow.

Chris:     Yeah, so we study that. It's like our Bible.

Seth:     Yeah.

Brian (DCMR):    So studying The Beatles and then incorporating some of that knowledge into your own music.

Brian:     Absolutely.

Chris:     Just copying it, basically.

Seth:     A lot of the harmonies, though, like before that, they would just come about naturally, just figuring out ideas.

Chris:     I was just copying Seth most of the time.

Seth:     That's true.

Brian (DCMR):    I guess the key is you're playing a lot of chords anyway, so you already kind of know what the notes would be.

Brian:     Oh yeah. We do, sometimes if we're stuck we'll go to the keyboard and we'll just figure out what's going to be the coolest little chord that we could come up with?

Seth:     That's what The Beach Boys would do, honestly.

Chris:     It works well because we have different ranges. I tend to gravitate towards the higher stuff, Brian goes lower, and Seth can kind of go wherever he wants, but he ends up somewhere in the middle.

Seth:     Sometimes I just stay there.

Chris:     To make it sound good, so ...

Brian (DCMR):    Wow. That's awesome. So now, what about you guys outside of music, then? Are you, like personal hobbies or what do you do other than the band? What is life like?

Seth:     I tend to go wherever I want. Chris goes for the high. Brian stays low. [inaudible 00:05:22] I have just recently got back into roller blading. We learned how to roller blade for a music video last year, and I put it away for a while, but I'm starting to roller blade again, so I'm having fun with that.

Chris:     All of the scabs are reopened.

Seth:     Yeah. On my knees already.

Brian (DCMR):    That tough learning curve. Roller blading.

Brian:     We started a Dungeons and Dragons group.

Brian (DCMR):    For real?

Seth:     Yeah.

Brian (DCMR):    That's awesome.

Chris:     It's not that awesome.

Brian:     It's a lot of fun, but ...

Brian (DCMR):    Who's the most Dungeons and Dragons of the three of you?

Brian:     Well, I'm the dungeon master.

Brian (DCMR):    Okay. So Brian is the one.

Brian:     Yeah, so guiding them along in the story. But we've got Hargrove Milk, Seth's character, and then Chris is Brody Brown.

Chris:     Oh my gosh. Brian killed off my character.

Brian:     It's a good time.

Seth:     Yeah, Brian killed his character.

Brian:     In the most recent session, yeah.

Chris:     He's a ghost now, as far as I'm concerned.

Brian (DCMR):    There it is. All right, so we're messing with dungeons, dragons, and ghosts now.

Brian:     Yeah, Dungeons and Dragons and Duskwhales.

Brian (DCMR):    What about you, Chris? Outside of music.

Chris:     Oh boy. Jeez, I eat a lot of salad. [crosstalk 00:06:23] Hanging out in the basement. Go for long walks. I don't know.

Seth:     You read.

Chris:     Yeah, I started reading It. The movie just came out, so I wanted to read that book. It's pretty spooky, so if you want a good scare, pick it up at your local library.

Brian (DCMR):    Like actually having nightmares from reading this?

Chris:     Yeah, if you enjoy having nightmares, this is the place to go.

Brian (DCMR):    This is the, okay.

Chris:     Stephen King.

Brian (DCMR):    Oh man, yeah, Stephen King, he delivers on that for sure.

Seth:     Oh yeah.

Brian (DCMR):    What about you guys? What's the ... Let's say the biggest success moment that comes to mind when you think about The Duskwhales?

Seth:     I'd say playing at the 9:30 Club.

Brian (DCMR):    Awesome. When was that? Tell me that story.

Seth:     We'd just, it was the last day of our, not the tour, but the tour before that. So it was end of our tour and we got to just play at the 9:30 Club, which was ridiculous because it's the best venue in DC, possibly that I've ever been to or have seen a show. I've seen every band that I love there, like Of Montreal and ... There's too many bands to even think of, but it was just, to be on that stage was humbling and empowering. It was really cool.

Brian (DCMR):    That's awesome. All right, 9:30 Club. That'd be it. Now, what about ... You were talking about those other bands, so let's have fun with this one. Each of you guys, what's one thing in your music collection that might surprise us?

Brian:     One thing in our music collection.

Brian (DCMR):    They're laughing, by the way, right now, so this is going to be good, if you can't see them.

Seth:     That's real extreme, though.

Brian:     Something that we listen to. Oh my goodness. Yeah, that's the crucial one.

Chris:     Maybe we should pick one for the other person.

Brian:     Yeah, I like that idea.

Brian (DCMR):    All right, so call them out.

Seth:     For Brian, it's Katy Perry Teenage Dream, which is probably one of our best pop albums.

Brian:     Oh my goodness, it's brilliant.

Seth:     It's really good.

Brian (DCMR):    Excellent.

Brian:     It's a geniusly crafted pop album.

Brian (DCMR):    Oh God, Brian, I'm so impressed right now.

Brian:     And everything she's done since then, it hasn't quite been Teenage Dream. That's, what an amazing album.

Brian (DCMR):    It hasn't quite been the same.

Seth:     She had a video where she burned the wig from that era, which was a huge mistake.

Brian:     Yeah.

Seth:     Can't go back. That's Brian's.

Brian (DCMR):    So that's Brian. What have we got?

Brian:     All right, let's see.

Chris:     Digging into Seth's roots, he had a big Emo era.

Seth:     Yeah

Brian:     That's true.

Chris:     So he hit hard on the My Chemical Romance.

Seth:     Still do.

Chris:     And all those ...

Brian:     Yeah, no shame.

Brian (DCMR):    Excellent. This is where if we pulled up next to him at the stoplight, you'd see him in the car, just absolutely singing his brains out.

Chris:     Yeah, just losing it.

Brian (DCMR):    Going for it.

Seth:     Yeah, my car's actually falling apart on the inside because of just hitting it, listening to music.

Chris:     It's a bit on the inside [inaudible 00:08:56]

Brian:     Seth, let's think though. Chris has such good taste in music.

Chris:     What have you got on me?

Brian:     Yeah, what?

Chris:     You got nothing.

Brian:     There's got to be something.

Seth:     What about if we just question what he listens to, like you don't like that he listens to that Australian band Pogo, like that really strange band that just takes Disney songs and-

Brian:     Oh yeah.

Chris:     Oh yeah, well that's ...

Brian:     He likes Disney music.

Chris:     No, okay, so this is-

Brian (DCMR):    Disney music. Oh, so good. [inaudible 00:09:20]

Chris:     Obviously Disney music is great.

Seth:     I'm just thinking of something you didn't like that he listens to.

Chris:     There's this Australian DJ named Pogo who takes little samples from Disney movies and he works them into these weird arrangements. So it's like the entire song is composed up of little bits of Pinocchio and there's a little bit of Snow White, and look, there it goes!

Brian:     It actually is really cool.

Chris:     It's super strange, yeah, and it's ...

Brian (DCMR):    Oh my God. That's amazing.

Chris:     It's kind of electronic stuff.

Brian (DCMR):    Now, one, so my favorite question that I love to ask is if you could offer one piece of advice, what would it be?

Seth:     To anyone?

Chris:     Don't quit.

Brian (DCMR):    It's up to you. Answer it however you like.

Brian:     Yeah, don't quit.

Brian (DCMR):    Don't quit. Say more.

Chris:     Keep at it. Don't get discouraged, because you're probably going to play a lot of shows that don't make you feel the inside, but you might play something that you feel pretty good about yourself. Practice a lot.

Brian:     Yeah, practice.

Chris:     Practice with your full band and with yourself.

Seth:     Practice instrumentally and then practice only with the vocals.

Chris:     Yeah.

Brian:     Yeah, and know who you are and be true to yourself, which is very vague, but know what your dream really is. If your dream is to become famous, then that's ridiculous. That can't be your dream.

Brian (DCMR):    Right. That makes sense.

Brian:     Yeah, but to make music, to make music for other people, you've really got to get your priorities in check.

Brian (DCMR):    Know the direction you're headed in. I like that, guys. Now, if they want to find out more about you and the cool things that are happening with The Duskwhales, where do they go to follow you guys?

Chris:, Facebook/TheDuskWhales, @TheDuskWhales on Twitter and Instagram are the main ones.

Brian (DCMR):    Excellent.

Seth:     Or come to a show and get to know us.

Chris:     Yep.

Brian (DCMR):    I was going to say, in person they're ... I'm sitting here with them and they're amazing guys. I hope you get to meet these guys someday.